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[Cooper]

Hey Hubert

Did you get the Nudibranch's yet? I need three.

Thanks

[Sohal Tang]

Will one of those tank raised psychadelic mandarins get along with a regular
wild male mandarin in a large reef?

Pls advise,

Thanks
Tim

[ajx22]

Will one of those tank raised psychadelic mandarins get along with a regular
wild male mandarin in a large reef?

Pls advise,

Thanks
Tim
Unless they are a mated pair - they will be very aggressive towards each other.

[Sohal Tang]

So the two different species of mandarin will *not* get along together correct?
They certainly would not be a mated pair.....

So...not good idea right?


Tim

[endlessblue]

I have had two different mandarins for 8 months in the same tank, they have never had problems. They are often seen swiming together, thanks my experience not both were wild.

[ajx22]

So the two different species of mandarin will *not* get along together correct?
They certainly would not be a mated pair.....

So...not good idea right?


Tim
Correct.

The only way you should house more then one conspecifics (Synchiropus or Pterosynchiropus) within the Dragonette (Callionymidae) family is when they are a mated pair.

[ajx22]

I have had two different mandarins for 8 months in the same tank, they have never had problems. They are often seen swiming together, thanks my experience not both were wild.
You luckily have a Male and Female that have paired then...

VERY uncommon to have occur 'spontaneously' within a captive system.

That said - one will likely starve to death over time unless you're adding MASSIVE amounts of pods to the tank; as realistically there is only enough hunting territory for ONE Dragonette per 100Gallon tank (assuming normal stocking of LR and no other pod predators). Add to that that you only have 1" substrate - which means that you NEED to vacuum it manually (SSB ) = you're removing much of the pods if you are vacuuming; and if not - you're going to start having major tank issues due to the build-up of detritus, etc.

[Sohal Tang]

I am not going to chance it... Sometimes I think two fish are getting along but then I think...I wonder if I interviewed the fish if it would say "no problem" hahaha

Thanks people.....Opinions vary for sure... I have broken rules and gotten away with it
but I am trying to do that less...

I think I will stick with the single mandarin....but I appreciate you having two and getting
away with it...CONGRATS for sure!

Thanks again for the input.

Tim

[endlessblue]

true they require live pods, in my case I have tons....in my refugium, and I also add pods when they become available. I can also physically see tons pods in my corner overflows. I will make sure they don't starve, and don't read to much into peoples tank info its not like its up to date.

[vaporize]

Actually you can have multiple mandarin in the same tank assuming you only have one male mandarin. There are many spawning reports that with one male mandarin and a group of female mandarins.

You can keep multiple female mandarin in the same tank, however with two males will fight with each other until one is dead.

However for w.c. mandarins, typically they only collect the males as they are much bigger and much more colourful. This is especially true for the blue/green mandarin since people like the bigger ones. Females are always smaller.

I once digged through 3 or 4 shipment of w.c. mandarin to only find one or two female mandarins out of them. Collectors also do not collect the smaller and less colorful females.

Mandarins are spawners, they typically mate around an hour before the lights go out. I think Chris had some experience on that before, you do have to collect the individual spawns and eggs if you want to try to hatch and rear them.

[ajx22]

...and don't read to much into peoples tank info its not like its up to date.

It's a posting requirement on AP.ca that your Tank Profile Information IS kept up to date...so please properly update it. It's there for a reason...and you just proved it. Thank you for your co-operation.


Actually you can have multiple mandarin in the same tank assuming you only have one male mandarin. There are many spawning reports that with one male mandarin and a group of female mandarins.

You can keep multiple female mandarin in the same tank, however with two males will fight with each other until one is dead.

However for w.c. mandarins, typically they only collect the males as they are much bigger and much more colourful. This is especially true for the blue/green mandarin since people like the bigger ones. Females are always smaller.

I once digged through 3 or 4 shipment of w.c. mandarin to only find one or two female mandarins out of them. Collectors also do not collect the smaller and less colorful females.

Mandarins are spawners, they typically mate around an hour before the lights go out. I think Chris had some experience on that before, you do have to collect the individual spawns and eggs if you want to try to hatch and rear them.

Thanks for the info Hubert.

I was definitely speaking of male vs. male due to that being the normal sex collected. As you stated, it's rare to see females available; and few hobbyists know how to determine the different sexes. Sorry for the confusion from my incomplete post (was on the road, replying via my iPhone). I should have provided more info.

Not also that Tim was talking about adding a tank-raised Synchiropus picturatus to an established wild-caught Synchiropus splendidus --- and IME /IMO - that wouldn't be a wise thing to do, even if one was female.

:cheers2:

[Sohal Tang]

I have decided that one mandarin will suffice,
thanks gents for the information..very helpful.
I may snag a female down the road but no rush....
SeaUmarine a few months ago had a ton of females and no males in stock! ha! Go figure.
Then a week or so later they got some males in....Your right...the males much bigger and more attractive...the females are significantly smaller.


Tim