Trial ricordea shipment and hawaii fish to come

[Reef Raft]

Last night we received a small trial shipment of ricordea. Because of the small order we are going to be fragging them to single polyps, call for pricing 905-290-9693

Tenative for next week Hawaii fish

2 Pair Crosshatch Trigger
9 Black Tangs
20 Achilles Tangs 3"
10 Flame Angel
6 Flame Wrasse
2 Adult Dussemeri Tang
6 Gold Rim Tang
20 Bartlets Anthias
6 Kiritimati Anthias
2 Mated Pairs Bandit Angel

[JMANCANADIAN]

Whats the price per frag on the ricordeas? Dont have phone right now. Thanks

JMAN

[fishfood]

Please PM or post the price of the Black Tangs.

[frankyfingers]

Please PM me on Achilles Tang Pricing.Thxs Frank

[torontoleafs_rock]

Do you think you will be ordering more black tangs in the months to come because I would love to buy one but need some time before tank is ready for one.. pm me please...
thank

Corey

[smp]

I phoned, nobody answered, I left a message.
Why not just post the price? It would save you and all of us a lot of time.
Is it a secret?

[deeznutz]

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, it's a secret!:hihi:

[MoonTang]

I phoned, nobody answered, I left a message.
Why not just post the price? It would save you and all of us a lot of time.
Is it a secret?


I agree why not just post some prices? Does every individual get a different price or something?

I have made many attempts to a get price but it's always the same answer over and over "waiting for invoice"

[corpusse]

I agree why not just post some prices? Does every individual get a different price or something?

I have made many attempts to a get price but it's always the same answer over and over "waiting for invoice"

How are they supposed to know the price when they don't know how much they paid for it?

[MoonTang]

How are they supposed to know the price when they don't know how much they paid for it?


The livestock are already at the store when i ask them FYI. I'm pretty sure they should know the price of their livestock for sale when the items are sitting in their displays.

Anyways just trying to help them out. They lost business from me to the guy down the street for this reason .

[frankyfingers]

It seems like thier back to thier old tricks again, I called for a price on a Achilles tang and the response was maybe $150, maybe $250, maybe $350, I don't know about you but no bussiness buys inventory without knowing thier cost, how do they know if they can sell it for a profit, I KNOW HOW BECAUSE SUCKERS LIKE US WILL BUY REGUARDLESS.

[Flipper]

How incompetent can they be? I really need to know if I should bring $50 or $5,000 in my wallet. Where are the exact prices?

[ginrin]

How incompetent can they be? I really need to know if I should bring $50 or $5,000 in my wallet. Where are the exact prices?

I'm not defending anyone but livestock is very tricky to price.You get the stock but not the bill sometimes after a few days since they don't want to be responsible for any DOA's.If you purchase 10 fish for $10 and 4 die,the price changes to reflect losses.Give them a chance to check their stock properly.

[Reef Raft]

The Ricordea are $20 per polyp, first come first served

The fish have not yet arrived, so we do not know landed price to give you a price

[Flipper]

I'm not defending anyone but livestock is very tricky to price.You get the stock but not the bill sometimes after a few days since they don't want to be responsible for any DOA's.If you purchase 10 fish for $10 and 4 die,the price changes to reflect losses.Give them a chance to check their stock properly.


...but, from what i've heard from others. You pay C.O.D. before you even receive your livestocks. The Suppliers never gives terms at ALL, they want their money first before they even ship out.

[carfag]

Live stock is very difficult to quote a price for. Inventory is very expensive, let alone keeping it alive, healthy and beautiful to the eye. RR has to balance the speed they are able to sell their inventory and how much they can get for the good. Demand will dictate this price. The real question is how much are you willing to pay for that fish/coral. That is the price that RR is trying to get to. By showing interest in the fish/coral, it creates leeway for the store to increase the price because there is new-found demand for the good. If five people contact the store and express interest in the price of a tang, and they have two, they would have good reason to increase the price. It's what I would do if it was my store.

Aquariumpros is an amazing marketing tool for businesses. Without it no one would know that they even received a new shipment, unless you were a close friend or popular customer and they personally called you. Call ahead to ensure they are open when you want to go and check out their stock, but don't knock them for not quoting you an exact price when they are still determining how badly people actually want the piece and balancing how quickly they can sell it. RR does a good job once you are actually in the store IMO.

[Flipper]

aaahh..thanks. So, it's an in-store auction.


Live stock is very difficult to quote a price for. Inventory is very expensive, let alone keeping it alive, healthy and beautiful to the eye. RR has to balance the speed they are able to sell their inventory and how much they can get for the good. Demand will dictate this price. The real question is how much are you willing to pay for that fish/coral. That is the price that RR is trying to get to. By showing interest in the fish/coral, it creates leeway for the store to increase the price because there is new-found demand for the good. If five people contact the store and express interest in the price of a tang, and they have two, they would have good reason to increase the price. It's what I would do if it was my store.

Aquariumpros is an amazing marketing tool for businesses. Without it no one would know that they even received a new shipment, unless you were a close friend or popular customer and they personally called you. Call ahead to ensure they are open when you want to go and check out their stock, but don't knock them for not quoting you an exact price when they are still determining how badly people actually want the piece and balancing how quickly they can sell it. RR does a good job once you are actually in the store IMO.

[shrimpchips]

If five people contact the store and express interest in the price of a tang, and they have two, they would have good reason to increase the price. It's what I would do if it was my store.

... but don't knock them for not quoting you an exact price when they are still determining how badly people actually want the piece and balancing how quickly they can sell it. RR does a good job once you are actually in the store IMO.

Although this may work since there are people who will pay anything for some things, it's a poor way to conduct business. How would you feel if you went to the grocery store, but they never told you how much stuff was until you got there. And then they arbitrarily jacked up the prices for cheese because there were 4 people in line at the counter? poor business practice, IMO.

Also, losses are part of any business, be it livestock or service, or whatever. In any case, businesses estimate losses and take that into consideration when giving a price. I think it creates more alienation than anything if their prices fluctuate so frequently to hedge losses shipment to shipment.

I'm sure they do brisk business, and don't need mine, but by having prices pre-determined I'm much more likely to go there and check things out. If I have no idea of the cost, and little guarantee of fair pricing, I'm not really going to haul myself out there.

[in_flight]

aaahh..thanks. So, it's an in-store auction.


what's with the animosity? if you're not planning on buying or don't like to deal with RR then why bother posting in the first place? afaik threadbashing on AP is still a no no

a good example of why fish pricing has not already been posted, costs have to be divided up between the survivors so for the store to make profit, they have to determine the final costs of the fish

[shrimpchips]

Very nice ricordeas BTW. I like the bright orange one.

[Ken_Baird]

Live stock is very difficult to quote a price for. Inventory is very expensive, let alone keeping it alive, healthy and beautiful to the eye. RR has to balance the speed they are able to sell their inventory and how much they can get for the good. Demand will dictate this price. The real question is how much are you willing to pay for that fish/coral. That is the price that RR is trying to get to. By showing interest in the fish/coral, it creates leeway for the store to increase the price because there is new-found demand for the good. If five people contact the store and express interest in the price of a tang, and they have two, they would have good reason to increase the price. It's what I would do if it was my store.

Aquariumpros is an amazing marketing tool for businesses. Without it no one would know that they even received a new shipment, unless you were a close friend or popular customer and they personally called you. Call ahead to ensure they are open when you want to go and check out their stock, but don't knock them for not quoting you an exact price when they are still determining how badly people actually want the piece and balancing how quickly they can sell it. RR does a good job once you are actually in the store IMO.

Very good observation,

So what you are saying is if no one inquires about the asking price of any new shipment and then if no one goes to the store for a week after the shipment arrives then we are guaranteed a cheap price!!:woohoo:

I get it now:lolol:

[frankyfingers]

Sorry carfag the way 99.9% of retailers work is they have a mark up % above cost and thats what determines price of an item.I run a successfull Heating&airconditioning company and my pricing does not increase on a furnace or Ac unit when its extremely cold or ridiculously hot out , but maybe I should take up this bussiness practice.

[corpusse]

Sorry carfag the way 99.9% of retailers work is they have a mark up % above cost and thats what determines price of an item.I run a successfull Heating&airconditioning company and my pricing does not increase on a furnace or Ac unit when its extremely cold or ridiculously hot out , but maybe I should take up this bussiness practice.

You can't compare aic conditioners to achillies tangs.

[shrimpchips]

Why not? I know were way off topic, but whatever.

AC or AChilles tang, they're all commodities. If he imported AC units from the pacific, and sold them for arbitrary prices, it's the exact same thing.

[bigtyguyy]

sorry carfag the way 99.9% of retailers work is they have a mark up % above cost and thats what determines price of an item.i run a successfull heating&airconditioning company and my pricing does not increase on a furnace or ac unit when its extremely cold or ridiculously hot out , but maybe i should take up this bussiness practice.


lmao

[soups]

With these tough times many retail store offer lower & lower prices. But in this hobby prices stay the same as always. It is us to blame for high prices (demand). So

Know your limit/ spend with in it!!!

BTW: Will this recision hit LFS when it come to live stock.
:confused1

[carfag]

everyone is forgetting that RR is a very specialized store. there are, what, about 5 in the GTA? There are probably 5 heating and air conditioning stores between big als and RR alone. For their usual stock (read clowns, gobies, chromis, hammers and torch corals) you bet they have a determined percentage above cost and that is there price. To get a quote on a unique product like an achillies tang you can believe they are going to make sure the maximise the abillity to see higher profits. unfortunaly in our hobby maximising profits is not that unusual (see ricordias, aussi acans and now deepwater zoas) or watch the gas prices before the labour day long weekend...it happens...

Lets remember that people are upset about not recieving a direct quote on specialized and unique good RR has. Call them again tomorrow and ask them for a quote on two perc. clowns(for example) and you will most likely get a solid quote.

and maybe not one week but definatly a couple months of minimal business and watch how quickly the dw zoas or acans would go on sale.

[corpusse]

Why not? I know were way off topic, but whatever.

AC or AChilles tang, they're all commodities. If he imported AC units from the pacific, and sold them for arbitrary prices, it's the exact same thing.

It's not really that off topic.

You know what you're going to get when you buy AC's (i'm assuming this). If they arrived smashed they will send you new ones. If the tangs die on route you are out of luck. If the truck is a day late you wait a day, if the plane is delayed a day they are dead. If you order model 5000 you get model 5000 if you order a 3" achillies you may get a 10" If you notice no one gets small ones anymore. The only other places that have had achillies recently I've seen have all been gigantic. If you order 100 ac's they will eventually come perhaps on backorder. If you order 100 achillies the divers may only catch 20. There are minimum charges on freight if you get half the order shipping prices may still be the same as the full. I'm sure theres more too but off the top of my head thats what I've got.

[smp]

The Ricordea are $20 per polyp, first come first served

The fish have not yet arrived, so we do not know landed price to give you a price

Thank you!
I don't know if I'll be able to get there soon enough :/
If I phone in can I buy some over the phone and you can set them aside, I know which ones I want.

Thanks Jay & Jensen.

[smp]

Also, I didn't mean to start a whole speculative debate about why or why not ..
reef raft said to call and ask for prices, I assumed they knew prices .. 20/polyp was the answer and that's all i was looking for.
sorry if I started anything.

[Reef Raft]

Hi All,
Thank you for posting all your concern and dissatisfaction. As stated in our original post Trial Ricordea and Hawaii fish to come. We couldn't tell any of you the price as the shipment hasn't arrived yet. There is no secret.. We may know how much we would like to sell it for but until it's landed and calculated all the charges and DOA we cannot provide anyone a price. Please understand that we have to consider some factors here before we actually price any items fish, corals etc.. Here are the factors
DOA
Currency
Freight
Duty

We all wish that it's cut and dry like dry goods, but then again it's not.

[Old Yeller Tang]

Now that i got paid i might have to drop by. Are these the same rics i saw last time?

[JMANCANADIAN]

I stopped by last night after work, very nice rics guys! I think they have some new and some old kicking around right now. They are seperated so just ask and the guys will let you know.