10 gallon tank

[mll]

I'm starting a 10 gallon tank with 10lbs of live rock and 3-4lbs or substrate.
What kind of fish would be ok in a 10 gallon?

[Michael_Lambert]

a 10G is kinda tight!

I would think a Percula clown or oceollerous (SP) , Maybe a bi-color blennie.. or just a couple of damsels.

again becouse its smaller like that there is not a whole lot.

[Sohal Tang]

the perfect fish if you put a tight lid(definitely!) and have about 4 inches of fine and mixed sand is a YELLOW HEADED JAWFISH!!!!
Believe me...I have owned alot of fish and this little guy is
by farrrrr the one that is the most perfect for a small tank
in my opinion....they are verrrrry cool once adjusted to tank.
very shy fish but when they come out they will watch you
walk around the room...noooo fish does that!!!!

IN MY 10 gallon nano I have a PERCULA CLOWN...thats it
right now and I NEVER get sick of him...percs are great!

Tim

[Michael_Lambert]

i also like the jawfish, But it is not a fish for a nano tank, it should be housed with 5-7 inches of fine sand much more than you would want to put in that small of a tank..

[Yellow Head Jawfish (http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/prod_Display.cfm?siteid=21&pCatId=188)

[Sohal Tang]

well that may be what the text books say Tooloud
but in reality I have had tremendous success keeping them
in about 4 inches of mixed sands.....the lfs that I bought my
first one from had his in a 15 gallon tank with about 4" of sand
and had it in there for 3 years!! They rarely leave the burrow
other then about 2 or 3inches away except to grab food at
feeding time...so no real need for more space other then perhaps
if you have other fish in the tank..but I was thinking ALONE in
the 10 gallon it would be ideal....I did same myself with a
yellowhead in a 10 gallon and it worked PERRRRFECTLY. :)

So...again..more then one way to skin cat in this hobby...regardless of the textbook answers sometimes. ;)

Tim
:D

[Michael_Lambert]

"So...again..more then one way to skin cat in this hobby...regardless of the textbook answers sometimes."

I agree! .. just making sure that all hobbyist are informed correctly, Not saying it would not work! Just posting some information on the fish.. as IMO i would not recommend it!

[Sohal Tang]

Opinion is when the assent of the understanding is so far gained by evidence of probability, that it rather inclines to one persussion than to another, yet not without a mixture of incertainty or doubting. --Sir M. Hale. :)


in my unproffessional *o p i n i o n* the yellow head
is ideal for a 10 gallon nano provided he is alone mostly
and there is a lid on the tank .... :)

:roflmao: :D :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

[Michael_Lambert]

Tim,

In another thread we posted the definitions of fact and opinion.. lol :(

So its all cool !

you voiced yours.. and i posted Published information ! . So now people can make there educated decisions!

[Sohal Tang]

definitely thats right Tooloud.
:D

now...where are the pics of your big tank and how is
it doing???? keep the pics comin will ya...I love seein em.

Cant wait to get my camera.....I will take a picture of
everything except the plumbing! hahaha

My sump is not looking very NEAT but it WORKS!! HAHAHA

I broke a piece off ...gotta tell ya.......As I was fighting to
try to get my Aerofoamer under my stand....wow what a fight it
was....and I lost it!!!!....anyways....I got the darn thing JAMMED
AND COULD NOT MOVE IT...and as it jammed I thought to myself
"I should have just notched the sump" no sooner had I thought
the idea and WAAMMMMM a neat little moon shaped piece broke off the top of sump...so...mine is not looking STREAMLINED as
some of the people's under cabinets I see..they blowme away
when I see those...mine looks mmmmm messy sorta..but itWORKS
and...the tank is looking pretty cool...although needs wayyymore corals...wait till you see the jasmin coral I have...(fox) nicest one I think I have ever laid eyes on and it is doing suuuper.....I got lucky finding it.....
Later,
Tim

[Chrismo]

Neon gobies are great for a smal tank. They are tiny, but nice looking, and clean your fish of any parasites if they get them. They only grow to 2" and are fairly hardy. I've been looking for some for a while and finally found some at big als in scarb.

A lot of the gobies are small. I have a beautifull clown goby that is blue/green with red stripes. He's about an inch and a half.

Firefish are good too, but I've never had one, I'd like to get a strawberry basslet, but they are really aggressive I hear Just like damsels.

chris

[afss]

Yep the neon gobys would be a nice addition too as the ones i have had typically stay in front of the rock work most of the time.

How much were they asking for the neons chris?

Scott

[mll]

hmmm can I add a percula clown and a firefish?

[Dman]

mll,
A percula and a fire fish would be fine in a 10. A sand bed, Live Rock and regular water changes and you're laughing.
Dman
:spin:

[Chrismo]

The neons were $20 each, which I think is a bit high, I've heard they used to be priced like damsels. $7 or so...

I got two, and they chase each other around at incredible speeds. I think they are likely both the same sex, as I hear opposit sex's dont fight so much.

I stuck my hand in the tank to grab a rock and one landed on me. I guess cleaning me! Kinda cool

Chris

[Dman]

Oh yea, and a cleaner shrimp, they're definately cool
Dman
:spin:

[TJ_Burton]

Just some input on that YellowHead (pearly) Jawfish. The Jawish do prefer to build burrows on a 65 to 90 degree angle. When ther are smaller its fine and dandy to have a short sandbed. BUT as he grows and is forced to make his burrow on less of an angle it could very well cause problems. It is never a good idea to put a fish's natural posture in jepordy. There have been cases where the fish ended up with spinal problems later on down the line. The jawish also will outgrow the tankspace in a 10gallon. I would suggest using a 30gallon High as a minimum for them.:)
Don't get me wrong... I love them! I have one myself! (Dusky Jawfish):):):) BUT mine is in a 65gallon High 36x18x24 with a sufficiant sandbed. They also prefer building materials such as pieces of dead coral, small live rock shards or other "stick-like" objects. They use them to build there borrows. So if you get one GOOD LUCK! they are hardy fish! But please have a proper home for them, otherwise is considerd inhumane by some. You wouldn't wan't someone to make you crawl on your belly because the didn't give you enough space to make a high enough roof!lol:roflmao: so don't do it to them! :):):)
Alrighty thats all I got to say! lol!:)

[mll]

Should I add a filter or let the live rock do the filtering in the 10?

[Chrismo]

Liverock and Sand can do all the filtering

[mll]

I may add something else instead of the clown and firefish, can I add 1 or a pair for seahorses?

[afss]

I wouldn't recommend it for a small tank like a 10 gallon.
sea horses, to my understanding, like some height to the tank. Also seahorses are not typically recommended as beginner fish.

BriFli has some experience with seahorses.. maybe contact him.

Scott

[mll]

What about Dwarf Seahorses?

[afss]

I don't really know. As far as i have always understood is that seahorses are best left to those who have some sw experience. That being said its really up to you. if you feel that you can give it adequate care so that it lives then go for. Just try to remember that they aren't just fish, they are creatures that deserve proper and adequate care, just as all creatures do, and shouldn't be bought with out the ability and knowledge to properly care for them.

Scott

[ajx22]

Any questions about seahorses should be directed to Aaron in the seahorse forum. He is the expert. :)

[afss]

don't know why. I completely forgot about him being into the horses... sorry aaron

[rottn]

SHs should be in a tank that is at least 3 times the height that they are when full grown (they do a courtship dance by spiralling up into the water column). Also - unless you have a LOT of time and patience on your hands (and even then there's no guarantees of keeping them alive), make sure you buy CB (captive bred) rather than WC (wild caught). There's many reasons why to do this! That is, if you decide to go with SHs! ;)

There's a ton of excellent info already right here in the SH forum (have fun browsing!), but any specific questions should be asked in the SH forum, as AJ said.

Good luck!

[mll]

Someone in some other forum told me that I can put 12 dwarves in a 10gal, but the problem was that it may not be easy to feed cause its too big.