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Chrismo
April 4th, 2003, 11:39 AM
I bought one of them Tsunami to-off units, a few weeks ago. I think coralmorphian wrote about his a while ago...

The water level has to drop an inch and a half before it activates and pumps freshwater into the tank. Thats not too much of a problem if you have a sump or a deep tank. An inch of water lost doesnt change salinity much if your tank is 20 inches tall.

But mine's on my 10g nano! So I had to rig somethin that made the sensor activate at a specific water level. Not a 1.5" range. Here's what i did, I think it's a pretty elegant, simple, and safe solution.

I took a 2"diameter PVC pipe, and put a cap on the bottom. I stuck the bottom of the pipe in the tank all the way to the bottom, and and maked off on it where I wanted the waterline. I cut the pipe off there. Now I stuck the pipe into the tank. It's looks like an internal overflow, bt without a hole in the bottom...

Now i stuck my Tsunami-senser-tube into the pipe. Into the pipe I also stick the intake tube from my little Aquaclear Hang-on filter it constantly sucks water from the pipe. The sensor tube senses water pressure. So, it turns on when there is no-water in the Pipe. It turns off when there IS water in the pipe.

When the water level is lower than the top of the pipe, the pipe becomes empty because the Aquaclear pumps the water out of it. The Tsunami-sensor turns on and pumps freshwater into the tank.

When the water level gets higher than the top of the pipe, the water overflows into the pipe and fills it. The Tsunami-sensor turns off, and your water level is at the exact height of the Pipe.

If my Aquaclear pump stops working for some reason, Your tank wont flood. it'll just stop filling the tank with freshwater.

The only way you can really flood anything is if you pump water out of the pipe and away from the sensor tube FASTER than gravity pulls it into the pipe. Thats not gunna happen unless your pump is REALLY strong. Every time your water level gets below the pipe, and the pipe empties of water, the aquaclear will run dry for a few seconds, untill the freshwater fills the pump up again. This aint good for the pump. You could avoid that by not using dividing the intake of the pump in two, and have half of the intake pulling tank water, and the other half pulling pipe water... You could use part of your skimmers intake too.

Anyway, it's working for me, and I think it's a nice little trick. Auto top-off makes life sooo much easier!

I think I'll make a diagram later. If you dont have a Tsunami-top-off, it's hard to visualize. The Tsunami cost me $109 Canadian but i've seent them for $52 American.

Can anyone see any problems I might have with this set-up?

Chrismo

ReefVan
May 11th, 2003, 08:49 AM
Chrismo,

I've built my own Tsunami's using the same World Magnetics sensors I got from a surplus store for a buck apiece. HA!!!! See photo below.

What I've noticed is that when you connect the airline sensor tubing to a plumbing nipple on a piece of 1" dia pvc pipe you increase the sensitivity. The larger the dia of pipe, the more sensitive your device will become. See photo below.

That's how I overcame the issue of sump height variance, mine is 3/4" sensitive on a 35 gal sump for a 66 gal reef.

Sensor Plumbing
http://pages.infinit.net/lambertv/images/dsc00209.jpg

Sensor Unit
http://pages.infinit.net/lambertv/images/dsc00212.jpg

p.s - I've seen these sensor units in the Digi-Key catalogue. $28.00 Cdn.

Chrismo
May 11th, 2003, 11:20 PM
That's great! Sooo cheap!

Can you get any more of those pressure sensors? for a buck!! Those are great! Are they are reliable so far? I want one for a new nano I'm thinking of starting.

Why are here two nipples on the sensor unit? For sensitivity, or for reversing when the electrical switch is activated?

So when the pressure gets low, a switch inside connects those 2 contact points? I bet if I pop my tsunami open, I'll see that same sensor. :)

I thought about making my end pipe volume bigger to increase sensitivity, but after thinking hard decided it wouldnt work... I was thinking that that would also double the volume that the air would be compressed into. PV=NRT...

Thats a cool solution. But I must say the way I have it with the PVC pipe makes the water level completely constant, no ups or downs, AND has the added benifit of filtering my surface water. It's like having the worlds smallest sump :)

Lemme know if you can get more of them 4 a buck. !

Chrismo

Chrismo
May 11th, 2003, 11:47 PM
Their website has great information on them...
"Military Approved"

It's comforting to know that the military uses the on their Fishtanks too. :)

http://www.worldmagnetics.com/psf100a.html

Chris