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johnnyk
February 19th, 2003, 04:15 PM
Hi all
I have been reading the threads for a bit and decided to try my hand at 1.
A breif description of my set up.
TANK 48"l X 24"h x 18"w approx 77GAL (CAn) 90 Gal US
115lb or so of LR
crabs, snails, slugs, shrimp(6) 2 cleaner, 2 blood, 2 Peppermint Royal Gramma, Bengai Cardinal, pair of Chromis, Goby (who likes to build with the Argonite sand on the bottom) , Anthia, Mandarin Goby couple of starfish, button polyps, star polyps, two kind of Brain coral couple Blue Musrooms and a rock of green mushrooms, and 1 small leather. (please excuse any spelling mistakes 6 months ago I couldn't spell saltwater tank)

OH YEAH I just about forgot 8 SeaHorses (4 male and 4 female)

20 gal sump with bioball filter.. adn a berlin Skimmer
WHEW! now that is taken care of
to my question

I have two hitchikers that came in the LR that I would love to know what they are? Unfortunatley I have no pictures yet but here is a description:
1) it is attched to the rock and hides in a 1"x1" crevis it is about as thich as an old style pencil (y'know the fat ones ) and can extend up to 2" outside the rock at night mostly and he/she it has a head green around the mouth with flecks of black and red and the tenticles are arounds the circular body at the head a re blck. (reading this it doesn't sound like a great description but any ideas?)

2) is simular to #1 but on a different rock and the tenticles are Brite RED with a samller red face (this one is only as thick as a regular pencil)

both have the appearance of a gelatineous ouside and retract back itno the roc

For my last question can anyone reccommend any reference guides (for home use not too complicated) to find the names of the fish, corals, inverts for a saltwater hobbiest?

thanks

john

afss
February 19th, 2003, 04:54 PM
First of all
http://www.aquariumpros.ca/images/welcome2.gif


Next can you tell me when you setup the tank?

I have some ideas on your hitchikers, but would prefer to see a picture first. Try looking at some websites to see if you can find a picture and then link to it.
Scott

johnnyk
February 19th, 2003, 04:59 PM
Sure I set up the tank Starting in Sept\02. cycled by Oct/02 but the hitchhikers had to come with the rock. I have looked on websites before but I havenot seen anything that resembles.. i will eve take a guess if you think it may direct me the right way.

afss
February 19th, 2003, 05:03 PM
Are the tentacles long or short?

afss
February 19th, 2003, 05:06 PM
Forgot to ask.. how do the seahorses seem to do? I had thought that they needed more specific water parameters than fiosh and corals. It was my understanding that it was difficult to keep them in a reef type setup.

Scott

johnnyk
February 19th, 2003, 05:07 PM
short and stiff about .5cm . the first one (larger) looks like a drawing of a Sun by a preschool

afss
February 19th, 2003, 05:09 PM
Sounds to me like good sized bristle/fire worms.

do they look kinda like this

johnnyk
February 19th, 2003, 05:10 PM
no9t that I have found.. I have Pot bellied SeaHorses Hippocampus abdominalis and I have had no trouble.. I have a tank set up with the help from Aaron (whom imports the captive bred seahorses) . there are a few rules that he makes me obey
non-aggreessive fish and corals but everything else seems to be fine

johnnyk
February 19th, 2003, 05:14 PM
nope but I just found 1 of these in my filter media last week actually. I have seen these before (in the largest saltwater tank !!) I am a scuba diver and I don't think my hitchhikers can leave the rock as easialy as bristle worms.

afss
February 19th, 2003, 05:16 PM
Excelent.. glad to hear that the seahorses are doing well. I have heard only good things about arrons seahorses. I will have to talk to him about them sometime.

If the tentalces were larger i would say some sort of featherduster, but they typically are much longer. I seem to remember a thread on RC that looked something like you are describing too. It was some sort of worm and unfortunatley the RC search is ofline at the moment. I'lkl see if i can find it later

Scott

johnnyk
February 19th, 2003, 05:21 PM
Not feather duster either and these guys will chow down frozen shrimp.. Aaron has seen them not really well they were not out all the way and he was stumped too.. I thought they may be some sort of Rock anemone

Drew
February 19th, 2003, 07:45 PM
some sort of zoanthid...
check out www.wetwebmedia.com to try and idthe thing
Drew
ps-90 gallons rock :cheers:

afss
February 19th, 2003, 08:06 PM
These are not the exact worms that i was thinking off, but similar, the one called Glycera americana comes closest to what i was thinking off.

Do you think its a worm or a coral?

afss
February 19th, 2003, 08:11 PM
forgot the link
http://saltaquarium.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aquarium.net%2F0 198%2F0198_2.shtml

johnnyk
February 20th, 2003, 12:52 PM
Originally posted by Drew
some sort of zoanthid...
check out www.wetwebmedia.com to try and idthe thing
Drew
ps-90 gallons rock :cheers:

thanks Drew I will check it out
jk

johnnyk
February 20th, 2003, 12:55 PM
Originally posted by afss
forgot the link
http://saltaquarium.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aquarium.net%2F0 198%2F0198_2.shtml


Thanks Scott but I am pretty sure it is not a coral... worm maybe but it doesn't resemble anthing on this link... I am going to try the Zoanthid lead to see if I can find it
thanks john

johnnyk
February 20th, 2003, 01:14 PM
No luck on the zoanthid site (or any other site) Oh well I will keep looking
thanks all

I will try to get a picture and post it