Getting Cb Seahorses

[ScottyM]

Hello,
Just wanted to share to you all, that I am getting some CB Hippocampus Kuda seahorses sometime next week! Waiting for CB seahorses instead of WC finally paid off. I will make sure I post some pics. when I get them.
Scott.

[Lukan]

Hi Scotty,

Where you gettin' Cb Kuda's. Let us know.

thanks

[ScottyM]

The LFS said they were getting them froma phillipeans(sry sp.) breeder. I will get to c what they are like next week.
Scott.

[Aaron]

What is the (sry sp.) stand for. As I mentioned in my PM there are no known breeders of CB seahorses in the Phillipines so I am very anxious to see what you get. IF they are available I will have a few hundred on the way. I have been contacted about some CB Erectus from Vietnam but again I don't know of any breeders there right now either.
Aaron
ps. Scotty M ask to be assured they are eating frozen food, and not live food. The big claim seems to be eating livefood, and if they are CB they will be all over Mysis frozen.

[ScottyM]

Aaron,
I contacted to them, and surley enough they said to me they are CB. I asked where they were coming form, and this time I got "i do not know." As you said you would be getting a 100 of them, well soorry to say theyr are only bringin in a 100. If you do get some erectus, can they be mixed with the Kuda's? If that is possible I would be very anxious to order some from you when you are ready!.
Scott.

[commie]

Aaron,
do you have any seahorses in stock right now??

thanks

[Estey]

Big Al's in Oakville has about 20 wild caught seahorses right now. I saw them about a week ago when I was there.

[ScottyM]

Do NOT buy WC seahorses. They will only die. Unless you are using them for breeding purposes, and you are very knowledgable(sp.) do not aattempt them. LFS are only bringing them in because they know people will buy them. How times have you heard I was given it from my mom as a present. Well lots of the time this happens with seahorses. Someone think they are kool and buys them for their friends. If people stopped buying them LFS would stop importing them, and there would be less pressure on the wild seahorses. Think about htis what would u rather buy, a 100 dollar sehaorse that will live, or a 50 dollar sehaorse that will die?
Scott.

[rickg]

Several CB seahorses in Brantford right now. Can't remember the price offhand. I think they are $70.00. Can verify later today. I have seen them eat prepared foods and they have been in store for roughly 3 weeks now. One male is also holding.

Rick

[Yvan]

Hello;

I find it VERY strange that suddenly, we can find a lot
of ''Captive Breed '' seahorses........

Yvan

[ScottyM]

even though they are eating you still hsould not buy them. A lot of the time they suddenly stop eating, and waste away. Also why buy as mentioned a 70 dollar seahorse, when you can buy a perfectly healthy specimen that will thrive for $60(at places like seanic).
Scott.

[jpdutton]

even though they are eating you still hsould not buy them. A lot of the time they suddenly stop eating, and waste away. Also why buy as mentioned a 70 dollar seahorse, when you can buy a perfectly healthy specimen that will thrive for $60(at places like seanic).
Scott.

Scott, do you know this place in Brantford? How can you be so certain these are not healthy? I am sure their are other people besides Seanic who can properly care for seahorses.

[rickg]

Just checked the price and they are 60 bucks each. He is looking into the source of the seahorses and assures me that they are CB.

ScottyM- How do I know when a good time to buy them is ( not that I am going to )? I have been watching them for 3 weeks now ( find them fascinating ), they are eating prepared food and moving about the tank in what appears to be a happy manner. You stated that the ones you are looking into are coming from the Philipines. How can you be sure that they are not just WC with the title CB added to it? Are you going to wait a couple of weeks and monitor them in the LFS?

Rick

[ScottyM]

Rickg- Generally I would stay away form WC seahorses. I mean if they are readily eating frozen you COULD give it a try, but i would highly discourage against it. Also even if you have perfectly healthy WC seahorses, it is not a good idea to mix WC, and CB sehaorses. If they are CB they should be eating food readily, show no sign of disease, and be overall healthy. I am also quite assured they are not WC given the fact that this place is ordering 100 if them, and I highly doubt that they would order so many WC ones. Sadly I will probably have to pick them up ASAP, as they will go very fast. Here in BC we haven't had Cb sehaorses for quite some time! I will just end up quarntining them!
jpdutton- Sorry I didnt know that you didnt know that seanic breeds CB. sry fo rthe lack of info I put in.
Scott.

[jpdutton]

jpdutton- Sorry I didnt know that you didnt know that seanic breeds CB. sry for the lack of info I put in.
Scott.


I know they breed seahorses, but surely they aren't the only ones that breeds them. The guy said the store in Brantford was selling CB seahorses and you replied that he should not buy them because seanic sells healthy ones. I was just wondering why you thought the ones he saw were not healthy?

[ScottyM]

Sorry.
I tottaly missed that he said CB. I thought we sere still talking about wild-caught. Well then there should be no difference, and I suggest if you are serious about gettin sehaorses, now is a time to get them. This explains a lot1
sry u guys.
Scott.

[jpdutton]

I'd love to get some, but I never see them in Toronto.

[Aaron]

Just to clear things up there is a lot of deceit going on right now and people are getting caught. Alot of places are bringing in farmed seahorses and then calling them CB. With farmed horses they are simpley kept in cages for lack of a better word out in the ocean. They breed and eat in there natural environment but cannot escape. These are still wild seahorses but are techinally not threatening the world populations.
They are no easier to keep than horses removed from the open wild. The easiest way to check if they are CB is to see if they are eating frozen food without hesitation. The other thing to look for is size, if they are much bigger than 2" they are not CB. Farms can't afford to hold onto them much past two inches as they need to turn quick profits. Look for seahorses with bright eyes that are very alert. Seahorses are fat animals when healthy, no sunken stomachs at all. Lastly don't blame your local stores they are at the mercy of what they get in writing. The world supply of CB seahorses is very very small, and shipments into Canada are very rare due to CITIES.
Aaron

[ScottyM]

I will make sure I watch out for this!!
Scott.

[ScottyM]

Forgot to aks but anyother tips you have when buying the seahorses? Also what about the ride home? Shuld they have something to hitch onto in the bag?
Scott.

[Yvan]

Well.....Aaron, that explain a lot... i was wondering how can it be
possible to sudenly get a ''batch'' of CB seahorses from a lot of
different ''breeders'' ????

And it look like what we can get here is ''Kuda'' one of the harder
specie to raise.........

I'll be patient and wait for some Pot-Bellies or Whitei's......I have
4 of them for a little over 1 year...and i'm 100 percent sure that
they are CB....

Yvan

[Yvan]

I forgot ! Scott, ...no, they dont need to hitch . I ordered
Zosterae (dwarf seahorses) once and it took 8 days..from
Georgia to Montreal.... they were ship to me in a Gatorade
bottle !!!!!!!!! IF they are healthy from the start, there is
no problem....

Yvan

[ScottyM]

Okay great!
Scott.

[fredfish]

WoooHoooo!!!! Got my ponies. :king:

Went down to the store in Brantford today to check out the sea horses. They awere active and eagerly fed on frozen mysis so I picked up 4.

And would you believe it, he got in 62 dwarf sea horses tonight! $24 a piece. Wow they are small! I really wanted to pick some of them up as well, but I'm really not set up to do this.

Fred.

[ScottyM]

Congratulations! Please post some pics. What species are they?
Scott.

[fredfish]

Don't know the species, and from what I have read it can by hard to ID them. I downloaded an ID guide from Project Seahorse to help me.

They are aclimating to the tank right now. I will try to get some pics tomorrow.

Fred.

P.S. Did you pick yours up?

[ScottyM]

My horses are due to arrive saturday night. I will probably have to get them right away, and quarantine them, because I know they will be gone very shorty. I remeber when my LFS brought in 50 Percula Clwonfish. They were all sold the same day.
Scott

[fredfish]

Ponies are in the tank. They sat on the bottom for a minute or so and then started hunting pods. All 4 are looking healthy and happy.

Now, off to bed. 5:45am is not very far away.

Fred.

[commie]

Fredfish, could you post the directions/address to the fishstore in brantford?
I wouldn't mind picking up a few ponies myself..

thanks

[fredfish]

The store is the Tropical Fish Room, 276 St. Paul Ave (hwy24). Number is (519)756-6225. Ask for Jerry.

I'm gonna call Jerry and ask for a commision on all his sea horse sales. hehe....

Fred

[rickg]

I just got my commission from him for directing you there Fred. JK.

I was there earlier this evening to check out the dwarfs. They are doing very well. Some males have already had babies. His girlfriend has already scooped herself 3 for home.

I have a 15 gallon long sitting here, wonder if I should start it up for a couple of these? $70.00 for 3, can't go wrong at that price. Time to start researching I guess.

Let's see some of those pics now Fred.

Rick

[rickg]

Just did some quick reading and it looks like a 15 gallon is a little much for the dwarfs. Can you believe that people are housing 5 pairs in a 2 gallon! Wow! That's how small these things are. Aaron can you jump in and let me know how you feel about this.

Rick

[fredfish]

Rick. Dwarves are supposed to be the easiest to keep and raise. most folks suggest no more than a 5g tank.

I'll fire up the camera tonight. I was just too tired last night.

Fred.

[rickg]

Just got back from the store AGAIN! I have a 5.5 gallon and all the equipment needed. Spent alot of time on the net last night doing some research. Have 3 on hold for me until the tank is ready to go ( going to be a couple of weeks until that happens ).
Took some pics while I was there also. Will post them later.
Jerry mentioned that he had a visitor that took quite the drive for these seahorses. Maybe he'll post some pics when he has them acclimated.
Gotta go do some more reading now.

Rick

[Aaron]

If I were doing dwarfs I would not go bigger than a five gallon. You need lots of brine hatched and ready to go. The chances of getting dwarfs on frozen is very slim. Also seahorse proof the tank, these little guys are eaten by filters quick. sponge filters are great.
aaron

[Yvan]

Hello Rick;

I Know the ''visitor'' ....i know him really well !!!! is b_tt is still hurting
from a 14 hours drive !!!!! I took a quick look at the bigger horses and
they are for the most Reidi's , and one is a Kuda..... i bring back 8
dwarfs....4 males + 4 females.

They are acclimating right now, and after a fresh water+formalin dip,
i can take some pictures......but were do i post them ???

Yvan

[rickg]

When you click reply there is an option at the bottom to MANAGE ATTACHMENTS. Click that then find the pic's on your computer and click upload.

14 HOURS! That's a long hawl. I hope everything goes well for you and your Sea Horses. I won't be getting mine for a couple of weeks. Gonna let the tank run for a bit and get a good brine shrimp set up going.

Aaron, I grabbed an Orca Sponge Filter, cost me a little more than most others but was informed this would be the best for the reason that nothing will get stuck underneath of it. Any other suggestions would be welcome.

Rick

[fredfish]

Yvan. Glad you got your dwarves. You must have jumped in the car right after I sent you the email. :lol2:

[Yvan]

Almost !!!!!!!!

I tried to take some pictures, but my batteries went dead before i had
the chance to take some decent ''snap''

...Well, i'm dead too , so it's time for me to go sleep !

Yvan

[CroatianGuy]

I am almost ready to go, here is 1 g tank, 1.5 lb lr, getting some sand from my tank, and lighting 7w pc,filter hang on minnie . hope they'll have some horses in feve weeks

[ScottyM]

Croatianguy vould you do a profile of the tank(ie. type of filet, heate?)
Scott.

[CroatianGuy]

I got a whole kit at petcetera for 26$ includes 1 g tank, clip on 7w pc, mini hang on filter, Good price considering how much they are separate,10$ filter,
30$ pc light

[ScottyM]

I have seen them for as low as $14.99(on sale price.) what do you use to heat?
Scott.

[ScottyM]

Just to clarify Iw as reffering to the kit.($14.99)
Scott.

[jpdutton]

Looks bigger than 1 gallon. they also sell 2.5 gallon kits for like 40$ at BAs
http://www.bigalsonline.ca/catalog/category.xml?pcid1=2253;category_id=3217

I read somewhere that its not good to put live rock in a dwarf tank, anyone else read that.

Theres a good webpage called syngnathid for info on seahorses and such.

[CroatianGuy]

still thinking on heat,motor on the filter should produce enough heat but I will monitor it in next days.
JP: some people keep their dwarfs in sterile conditions,gravel and plastic plants, I prefer more natural way.
for all of you looking on info on dwarfs or other SH
visit www.seshorse.org

[fredfish]

I suspect that the concern with live rock is that it may contain hydroids which are bad for dwarfs.

fred

[ScottyM]

What are hydroids?
Scott.

[fredfish]

Little invertibrate stingy things. They come an many shapes and sizes. I have seen some that look like tiny anemonies. I also have hydroids in my tank that look like tube worms sort of feathery tops. The tubes are about 1/2" long and redish. They seem to grow in bunches.

go to Reef Central to Dr. Ron's forum and do a search (If you can get it to work) on Hydroids or do the same at seahorse.org.

Fred.

P.S. Still trying to get pics of my horses. The flash on my coolpiz 950 doesn't seem to be strong enough.

[Aaron]

Liverock can introduce hydroids, and other nasty pests which can prey on those little guys. It can also introduce some bacterias and pathogens that will harm your horses.
Aaron

[rickg]

I used rock that has not been in my system for a couple of months (everything should be dead by now). No smell to the rock at all when I put it in the tank. One thing I did do though was add water from my reef system. I went 50/50 with new RO water. Will this cause a problem?
I also read that 1.019 is an ideal SG for seahorses, any comments on this are welcome.
I have one other question. ScottyM asked this on another forum. How much light is too much? I have a 20" Coralife fixture, 1x96W, I feel this will boil my water with the heat this fixture emits. When I had it on my 10 gallon I didn't need a heater at all. Is this going to be too much?

Rick

[Aaron]

In their natural habitat seahorses generally stay in weed beds ect and avoid direct sunlight. That said almost any lighting will do, from NO bulbs to MH bulbs, but they are happiest at moderate light.
Aaron

[ScottyM]

Thanks for answering my hydroids question!
Scott

[fredfish]

It can also introduce some bacterias and pathogens that will harm your horses.

Really? Have you had bad experiences with live rock. I have 20lb in my pony tank.

Fred.

[rickg]

Finally got my resizer back. Here are some pics from the store. First is the dwarves, second is the larger blacks, and third is another of the dwarves for comparison. My are still waiting to come home (couple more weeks).

Rick

[ScottyM]

VERY cool!
Scott.

[Yvan]

Everything is going well....and some babies this morning... :o)

Yvan

[rickg]

Wow great shots Yvan!! Glad to see everything is fine after there 7 hour trip.
Can you get a full tank shot? Wouldn't mind seeing the setup. I have been considering taking out the crushed coral that I put in my tank.

Here's a pic of mine as of 5 minutes ago. No heater and no lights yet but it is holding at a constant 74 degrees. Added a PH 101 to the sponge filter to reduce air into the tank and give the sponge a little more power ( just an experiment, comments welcome ).

**EDIT** The top trim is also coming off and reset as the silicone lifted one side. The tank is perfectly level.

[CroatianGuy]

so cute :crush:

[Yvan]

Well, i don't like this setup ..... no good to raise babies....
I have to siphon the older babie brine shrimps and put
some freshly hatched.....

I will ''work'' on a divided larger tank........

Yvan

[ScottyM]

Very nice tanks!
Scott.

[Yvan]

Rick; your setup look good to me....

The larger crushed coral is o.k. but with all the
bbs , after some time be sure to check water
quality.....

Right now, my setup is very basic...5 gal. tank,
some caulerpa and a sponge filter....if it work
like i hope to, my population will grow and then,
i will make them a much more natural home.....

Yvan

P.s. Next time you go to Tropical.....tell Jerry that
the guy from Montreal is very happy with his
dwarfs !

[CroatianGuy]

Yvan, how long did you let your tank to cycle just with sand

[Yvan]

Honestly, i dont bother with cycling .....for such small tanks...

I just took some water from my Pot-bellied tank, mixed some
fresh salt water, took one of the sponge from my Whitei and
that's it !!! ...no need to wait a long time.....

I always have some cycled sponge...just in case :o)

Yvan

[rickg]

Did some things different since the last post. I reduced the level of the crushed coral and added 3 pieces of LR. I also picked up a 13W PC desklamp that I grabbed at CT while out this morning. Now all I need is some caulerpa and I think it will be finished.
Yvan, I did almost the same things you did. I used 50% water from my other system and 50% freshly mixed saltwater. The only thing different is that I added a sponge that is not cycled. How long will I have to wait for it to finish it's cycle? I don't want to jump into putting these in my tank if it is not ready. Here's a pic of the tank now.

Rick

[CroatianGuy]

what do you use for heater?

[rickg]

No heater yet. It held a consistent 74 degrees all day. I think the PH is holding it there. The light didn't affect the temp at all. I raised it another 3" just to make sure it doesn't go beyond 74 degrees. I will be adding a heater sometime through the week if I notice any fluctuations in temp.

Rick

[ScottyM]

What kinf of macros fo you have growing there?
Scott.

[rickg]

Best I can figure is that it is Caulerpa Serrulata. Did some searching to see what I could find.

BTW, my tank held 74 degrees through the night without lights. I assume this is the Powerhead holding this temp. I am still going to add a heater just in case.

Here are a couple closer shots of the macro I have in the tank.

Rick

[ScottyM]

Hey now that I see them closer I realize that i have that type too. My LFS said that they would be getting the CB in on Saturday, but hav eyet to get them:(. I seriously hope they come in soon.
Scott.
PS Ill try to post some pics. of my tank.

[Yvan]

Scott......i know what it is........waiting for them......

...Your gonna have your nose ''stick'' to the glass when you
finaly receive them !

Since i've got my dwarfs, i look at them so much that when
i look at my Pot-bellies, they look like giants !!!

Yvan

[rickg]

Has anybody had experience using chaeto? The LFS is using chaeto at home and they have not gone near the caulerpa since. I have a little clump in there now that I checked for any hitchers to make sure there is nothing that is going to hurt the horses.
I figure I will be grabbing my horses tomorrow. Brine should be ready by then.

Yvan, do you have the babies separated in a breeding trap for feeding purposes, or are they in the big tank fending for themselves? I really do not want to put in a holding area for them and was just wondering what others are doing.

Scott, I hope you get your horses soon. I feel bad talking about the ones we have here after you started this thread and still haven't received yours yet. Good luck with them when they do arrive.

Rick

[Yvan]

Hello Rick;

No, they are in the main tank (5 gal. ) with the adults.....its a
pain to remove all the brine shrimps each day and put freshly
hatch.......

I'm working on a 10 gal. tank, with a small compartment for the
babies, one for different filters, and a section for macroalgae
and amphipods......

Yvan

[smokey21]

I am in utter disbelief!! Dwarf Seahorses in Brantford Ontario! I've been waiting for over a year for this. A good drive from Toronto but worth it. Geeze I wish I hadn't dismantled my "hopeful dwarf tank". Does anyone know if they still have some available? I will call them asap to find out. If this works out all the patients and reading and hoping will pay off :shock1: . Man I wish I checked this forum sooner. I hope you guys saved me some ;).

Let me know of any updates....

Thanks

[Yvan]

....''A good drive from Toronto''......You are lucky that i live in
Montreal......i'm thinking of going there and buy all he have left !!!!!!!

I'm joking......i bought 8 and now after almost 1 week, i have
over 40.......by the way, they are growing, i lost only one but
he was dead soon after borned.....

Yvan

[smokey21]

Hey Yvan, yeah i know, ur a champ for comming from montreal ;). I'm really excited about this, I wish they were a bit cheaper, but its all good. I called and they told me that they are selling fast, and that someone came all the way from montreal to get a bunch.. (Hmm.. haha). Thanks for not taking them all. I'm gonna drive up there asap.

I'm glad yours are doing well, I was gonna ask you if they are all healthy. How many gallons is your tank Yvan? I have a six gallon eclipse that I altared to slow down intake and outtake a while ago when I was planning for this, but I don't know if I can buy that many dwarfs right now (to get a good feeding/gallon ratio), I should have started an unexpected dwarf savings p. bank.

You also said Yvan that you got some dwarfs from georgia and were shipped to you. Do you still have those ones? Are they doing well? If not, what happened? I just want some insight on pples experiences. At seahorse.org, there is not that many sucessful testimonies (usually only kept them alive no more than a year).

And thanks Rick from Brantford for letting us know about these, If all goes well I owe you one.. (A dwarf that is). At least they are holding yours for you. I asked them and they said they are moving so its not possible to hold them for a couple of weeks. My eclipse has been running as a FW right now, but they said that since its only 6 gallons they would be able to aslo give me water.. I hope it works out.

[smokey21]

One last thing, these are WC right? I haven't heard of CB dwarfs, even in the states.

One more thing to whoever purchased the dwarfs already, did any of you do a FW dip? I noticed the caulerpa in the tank from the pics rick took of the ones at the store (unless i read it wrong, were they ricks or from the store?). I wanted to keep mine in a tank w/out live plants for now just so I don't have to be to worried about hydroids.

[Yvan]

Hi;

Yeah, they are WC.......in the states there is some CB but
generaly, they find ''home'' very fast....

Right now, they are in a five gal. ...and working on a divided
10 gal. i''ll post pictures when complete...

Yes, they are not cheap.....i'm doing all i can to raise some
of the babies ...... i have about 40 babies + 8 adults....so
.50 cent each !!!!!!!!!! yes, i know !!! ...they are far from
adults !!! but i can dream ???

The dwarfs from Georgia.....Ha ! ...lt's about 10 years ago...
They were my first dwarfs....they come to me in a Gatorade
bottle !!!!! i ordered 6 and 3 were dead after being in transit
for 8 days.... the male died after giving birth to 3 babies
and the 2 females , i had them for almost a year......

Dwarfs dont live for very long....let's say that they live 2
years, so when you buy some they are about 1 year old
...so if you keep them for another year, IMO it's pretty good.

Yvan

[smokey21]

True, one year is good. But I think the greatest sucess is being able to breed them and have surviving offspring. It must be difficult since not many pple have been able to keep that many generations going. Keep us updated on how the babies are doing. (pictures too of course lol)

[Yvan]

Hello;

I forgot for the FW dip, yes i did it.....4 minutes each seahorses
fresh water & Formalin ''3'' .....

....Sucess will be when my babies have babies themself..... IF
it happen !!! ....i'm working hard for this. :o)

Yvan

[fredfish]

Yvan, keep those little guys breeding. I want to set up a dwarf tank once I get my Reidi's settled in and I know they are doing alright.

Fred.

[rickg]

Well I went and picked up my 4 today. Finished acclimation and dip on them and they are now in the tank happily chasing the brine shrimp around. I will post pics later on this evening.
I wasn't going to get them today, but I noticed somebody might be coming down from Toronto this evening and didn't want to miss out.

Rick

[smokey21]

"but I noticed somebody might be coming down from Toronto this evening and didn't want to miss out. " Oh no, the word is spreading fast! :rocket: jk haha

How many were left rickg? both males and females? I really hope I don't miss out, I've been waiting a long time.

[rickg]

They still had maybe 10 left. There is another place carrying them right now. They are from the same supplier. He has alot more left as the store is relatively new.

Rick

[ShipWreck]

Reading this thread I have a few questions:

Everyone is talking about a totally stand alone tank for these guys but I have other places where an above tank fuge is a good place to house horses. Is this not the case for dwarfs?

What is the best way to feed these guys? Do those HOT brine shrimp hatcheries work? Will they respond to frozen food?

Also what is this 'other' store?

I have always loved to watch horses and wanted them since I was a kid and this thread has only increased my desire.

[smokey21]

Where is the other store rickg? Is it in Brantford as well? I'm going there saturday morning, so if you could give me the address to the other one as well I'd really appreciate it (phone # too if u have it... or just the name, whatever u got...)

[smokey21]

Shipwreck, from what I understand the reason to keep the dwarfs alone is not only b/c of the stress/attacks from other fish, but the chances of getting hydroids in the dwarf tank which will end up killing the dwarfs. I've been told to even use different equipment if you have dwarfs and other SW tanks, so that there are no chances of hydroids contaminating the dwarf tank water.

They wont respond to frozen food. The only way to feed dwarfs is by hatching baby brine shrimp Daily, which is tedious and boring no mater how cute bbs can be to some people. If you don't know if you can handle that, you might want to try to hatch the bbs for a couple weeks and see how that feels. There are many sources on google or at seahorse.org to find the best way of hatching bbs. But I think if your really interested in dwarfs it may just be worth the effort. I'm not sure about the "HOT" hatcheries ur reffering too.

[ShipWreck]

Thanks Smokey. That is an excellent website. By the time I finish reading it all I will be able to buy the babies of the babies of this batch of Dwarfs.

[rickg]

Come home to 10 babies swimming around the tank. Caught them all and are now in a breeding trap (pretty tricky thing to do without taking them out of the water). All are well and I have not seen a still born anywhere. Just fed some brine and they are eating it well.

The other store is in Woodstock, just a little further down the highway. I will try to find out the number for you before tonight. I have to go there myself on Saturday.

Rick

[smokey21]

Thanks rickg, I appreciate it. Glad to know ur dwarfs are doing well, keep us posted.

One more thing, where do you get ur Brine Shrimp.. there so expensive here. Did either of those shops have good pricing on Brine Shrimp?

[Yvan]

Hi;

Well, my last pregnant male just got is babies (17) for a total of
over 50... They are still growing... the first ones (born on march 14)
already look like ''mini-dwarf'' :o) they are about 3 X the size
of the newborn...

Shipwreck; for the above tank fuge, i'm pretty sure that it is
possible, but IMO , i would start with a small tank
just to ''understand'' there needs....

Rick, good luck with the babies ! ....in fact, you dont need
''luck'' , you need LOTS of BBS !!!!!

Yvan

[rickg]

They weren't that cheap, $7.99 for a vile of them.
Yvan, I have 3 mason jars constantly on the go, started in a 3 day sequence. Day 1 is ready to go now. The stuff they are eating is from the LFS. Owner's GF was kind enough to share with me.
It looks pretty neat to see them clinging to the other male in the trap who is yet to release his babies.

No luck with the number for the other store yet. I have been there once shortly after he opened. Pretty clean setup but not that big in the fish room.

Rick

[rickg]

The other store:

DJ's Tropics
223 Norwich Ave. Unit #3
Woodstock, ON
N4S 3V8
(519) 537 2938
(519) 537 6747

Rick

[smokey21]

Thanks rickg, but I already went to the other store. But I'll check that one out in the future. They had quite a bit when I was there, about 15 or so. I took 6. I aclimated them in about 6 hours, but I noticed 3 of them are breathing hard, while the others are fine. Did any of yours do this, is it a sighn of stress or water quality?

For anyone who has dwarfs, or got them from Tropical, what is ur sg? Mine is 1.023, which is high for dwarfs, but they were in 1.024 sg at the store, so I dont want to lower it too fast. My ph is 8, nitrates at 25 (same specs as the water at the store - I brought a small bucket and they said I could have some water, so thats how I got those specs.)

They are all hitching, and a few are checking out their new home, but 2 or 3 of them seem to be stressed or something.... :(

[rickg]

I did the same with mine when I went and got them. My sg is a little lower, 1.022 is the measurement I took when I was there. I am slowly reducing this over the next 2 weeks. Nitrates are almost 0 as of this morning. One of mine had rapid breathing for the first day and has now relaxed a little ( maybe since he released the babies ).

I just got back from DJ's Tropics. For anybody who goes looking for the horses, call first as he only brings them to the store when people are really interested in them. He has a display setup at the London Horse Show this weekend as well.


Rick

[Aaron]

There are lots of reasons not to keep your seahorse tank attached to another, but it is mainly do to attach from pests and toxins released from corals. I would never acclimate a seahorse for 6 hours when they have only been shipped a short distance. 6 hours can cause more stress than a short quick drip as the PH in the pail can change from the PH in the tank. As for specifac gravity you can drop it quickly over three hours and I would do that. If they are showing stress try some Meth. Blue.
Aaron

[rickg]

Finally got my computer to accept my camera for uploads. Here are 2 pics of 3 of my adults.
Aaron what is a good SG to keep? Mine is now 1.021. Should be OK here or should I bring it down to 1.019? Everything is doing very well. Pretty neat to see how fast the babies are when the BBS enter the tank.

Rick

[smokey21]

Wow, those are beautiful rickg. Are all ur adults still doing well? How many babies do you have now? Unfortunantly, 2 of my 6 died yesterday, I'm very dissapointed in myself. Its the first time I rushed into getting a pet, I had the background knowledge to get started but I wish I had time to prepare myself. The other 4 seem to be doing well, although the breathing still seems a bit fast for 2 or 3 of them. They are fascinating though. I hope these ones I have will make it trough.

[smokey21]

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[ScottyM]

Very nice pics!
Scott.

[ScottyM]

Finnaly my lng wiat s over!!! YES my CB seahorses have finally arrived. My LFS got them 4 days ago, and was quarantining them, and they will be ready for sale by tommorow! I have prepayed for a male and female. They are Hippocampus Erectus, and about 2-3 inches. I am very excited, and will make sure I try t pos some pics.
Scott.

[smokey21]

Thats great Scotty, isn't it exciting. :thumbsup:

Can't wait to see the pics.

Where did they come from? Canada, States, Overseas?

[ScottyM]

They are coming from a place in Indonesia. Im not sure where exactly.
Scott.

[ScottyM]

Today I picked them up at 10:00. I got a 2.5 inch female, and a 4inch male. The female eats greedily, while the male hasn't touched anything yet:(. I will let him get more adjusted before I start to worry. I will be posting some pics soon too.
Scott.

[Yvan]

Scott;

Still waiting for the pics !!!! ...as i am very sceptic about
Erectus from Indonesia ???????

Yvan

[ScottyM]

Yvan over at seahorse.org, theyhave been discovered to be a sub family of h. kuda. Also I am selling my tank because of money issues.
Scott.