User titles - User Respected Adviser Rating System

[ajx22]

Hello all!! :)

I am just making some edits on the softwares Admin panel - and wanted to get some MEMBER feedback.

Currently - we have a few things set-up.

User Titles:
This is the automatic titles (under your username) given. At present - they are set-up as:



0-99 posts = New Member
100-299 posts = Member
300-499 posts = Senior Member
500+ posts = Reefing Guru
Can I please get some suggestions for some more Reef-Related titles? We currently have users ranging from 0-posts up to over 4,000-posts - so we should have a few more then already exist.


Ranks:
Within the software - I can add something called Ranks to each usergroup. I think that it would be cool to have a ranking system as well as the User Titles - as many members choose to pick their own User Title. Can I get some feedback on this idea as well.

Directly from the vBulletin description of User Ranks:

About User Ranks User Ranks:
Users ranks are rank insignia based on post count and usergroup that are displayed next to names in posts. User ranks work very similar to user titles, the main difference being that user titles are for all usergroups while user ranks can be created for specific usergroups. In this way you can create different rank insignia for different usergroups. User ranks appear next to names in posts.


Reputation:
Another feature of the forums software - is something called User Reputation. This is more just a Pier-Rating System. This relates to the agreement or disagreement of posts. While I really don't want this to become a problem - I would like to get some suggestions for titles for this system.

Directly from the vBulletin description of Reputation:

User Reputations:
vBulletin's user reputation system provides a way of rating users based on the quality of their posts. Users on your forums can add or subtract reputation points from other users by clicking the reputation link in their posts. You can set restrictions on the giving and taking away of reputation points by users in your vBulletin options.

User reputations allow the users in your community to tell vBulletin which users are quality and which users are not. And in response to user feedback, vBulletin has the ability to label and reward users for the quality of their posts, as is indicated by their reputation.

You can label quality users by defining reputation levels in the User Reputation Manager. User reputation levels work very similar to user titles and user ranks in that they are an indicator of status that are displayed next to names in posts.

You can reward quality users by creating promotions on the Promotions page. Promotions are used to change a user's group memberships when they meet certain conditions, one of which can be their reputation level. Because forum permissions can be controlled with group memberships, a user's reputation in conjunction with promotions can be used to control a user's forum permissions. And so by using a combination of user reputations, promotions, and group permissions, you can enable your community to reward and punish good and bad posters on your forums. Currently (forums default):

http://www.aquariumpros.ca/userfiles/Rep-Titles.jpg



Please let me know your input for the above options - and lets start making some Member-Directed changes to AquariumPros.ca!!


Many thanks to everyone that contributes to this - as it only makes your visits better.

Sincerely,

[ajx22]

^^^bump^^^

[psiico]

Since no one else is chiming in I will start things off.

User Titles - Can't suggest any, to be honest don't see the point beyond the ones you have. Most users change theirs anyway and the ones who don't Reefing Guru is probably a fine title whether they have 500 posts or 5000. Also, see below.

Ranks - Sounds kind of cool. With these there is no need for more user titles.

Reputation - From what I've seen of how it's been working to date it loks fine to me. The only thing is, it doesn't seem to be getting used much. Just about everyone has "0" reputation. I'm guilty too though, I only gave reputation to people a couple of times, I could have done it a lot more, there are some great posters on here. I'd be less inclined to remove reputation though, unless it was a blatantly wrong/evil/bad post, it'd have to be really bad, not just por advice and certainly not just for an opinion I disagreed with. Thing is, I don't trust myself or my own knowledge enough to say with surety what someone else has said is flat out wrong in many cases. This doesn't make the reputation thing a bad idea, I think it's good even if I'm too stupid to use it, lol.

[rbeleno]

Hello all!! :)


User Titles:
This is the automatic titles (under your username) given. At present - they are set-up as:



0-99 posts = New Member
100-299 posts = Member
300-499 posts = Senior Member
500+ posts = Reefing Guru



Hi AJ,

Respectfully the only one I am not sure about is the 500+ posts for Reefing GURU. I do support everyone who posts, but some newbie users will get to 500+ pretty fast (even in less than a year with short posts and comments) and I personnaly feel that they are not even close to a Reefing Guru. I feel the title of Guru should go to those who have at least been in the hobby for a couple of years and have had many various experiences - not by the number of posts they have. Having the title of Guru might give even the very newbie users an impression that what this person posts must have a lot of valueable weight and credentials :hail: Just my friendly opinion.

Ron

[ajx22]

Completely agreed...

This is why I am asking for actual input for both the user titles - as well as the posts needed for each.

Let's get some suggestions for the names and the posts required for each.


Thanks in advance,

[psiico]

Hi AJ,

Respectfully the only one I am not sure about is the 500+ posts for Reefing GURU. I do support everyone who posts, but some newbie users will get to 500+ pretty fast (even in less than a year with short posts and comments) and I personnaly feel that they are not even close to a Reefing Guru. I feel the title of Guru should go to those who have at least been in the hobby for a couple of years and have had many various experiences - not by the number of posts they have. Having the title of Guru might give even the very newbie users an impression that what this person posts must have a lot of valueable weight and credentials :hail: Just my friendly opinion.

Ron


That's why I changed mine to Reefing Geek, I'm no guru. I'd hope that responsible people would judge themselves fairly and do the same thing.

[rbeleno]

That's why I changed mine to Reefing Geek, I'm no guru. I'd hope that responsible people would judge themselves fairly and do the same thing.

Actually Psiico, you have a great deal of knowledge which I respect :) and you are a great Poster and contributor on the board. Although if you want to be known as a Reef Geek, you got my support :spin2:

I'm curious how others feel of using the "Senior Member of the ###+ Club" for anything over 500... ie:
Senior Member of the 500+ Club
Senior Member of the 1000+ Club
Senior Member of the 2000+ Club... etc.

It's kind of like saying, Member of the Mile High Club... any reefers out there a member of this group :bananas:

I'm in favour of the posting ranges that you have up to Senior Member.

All feedback and opinions welcome.

Ron

[szesteve]

I totally agree with Ron about the Reefing guru title, however i'm not so sure about being "associated" with the mile high club. :p

What about:

0-99 posts = New Member
100-299 posts = Member
300-499 posts = Senior Member
500-799 posts = Serious Reefer
800-999 posts = Experienced Reefer
1000-2499 posts = Reefing Fanatic
2500-4999 posts = Full-time Reefer
5000+ posts = Reefing Guru

[coolwater]

Maybe we can use something like in military ranking system..

[Aquadude]

I really liked the old user trader rating system. I think it's more useful than the present user reputation.

[psiico]

Actually Psiico, you have a great deal of knowledge which I respect :) and you are a great Poster and contributor on the board. Although if you want to be known as a Reef Geek, you got my support :spin2:


Ron

Thanks for the kind words but I've got a long way to go. If I were a guru I'd maybe be able to help Mugster with his SPS problem, or be able to answer questions about plumbing or MH lighting or tangs, Generally, the only things I know about are the things I have or plan to have. There's just too much to learn to try to get it all at once. Maybe in 5 or 10 years when I have a broader understanding of the things I know nothing about I'll be a guru, till then, I'm just a geek.

[ssheipel]

Here are my suggestions:


0-99 posts = Just recently rented "Finding Nemo"

100-299 posts = Believes sushi would be better alive, swimming in the aquarium

300-499 posts = Friends visit his/her living room rather than Marineland

500-799 posts = Has scars from MH burns and recent tang attack

800-999 posts = Can seriously discuss consitency of skimmate

1000-2499 posts = Has considered one less bedroom in favour of a larger sump

2500-4999 posts = Has child with the middle name Acropora

5000+ posts = Knows size matters (but is talking about skimmers)


:spin:

steve

[ajx22]

Thank you for the input...

Let's get some more please.




I really liked the old user trader rating system. I think it's more useful than the present user reputation. Aquadude,

Trader Rating and Reputation are completely different.

Trader Ratings is to rate people on their trading history - and is completely functional again:
http://www.aquariumpros.ca/forums/showthread.php?p=96323#post96323


User Reputation is more like Karma - just a Pier Rating System of the persons contributions to the site.


Thank you,

[ajx22]

Based on the FANTASTIC input of both szesteve (http://www.aquariumpros.ca/forums/member.php?u=1936) and ssheipel (http://www.aquariumpros.ca/forums/member.php?u=1805) - I have adjusted the User Titles and added the User Ranks that were suggested!

I definitely think that the user titles are better now - and more realistic...

...and the User Ranks - LMAO - I think that the ones that were suggested are absolutely perfect.

Check out the left-side of a users post - just above the Avatar.


Many thanks for the contributions... let's make AP.ca fun again!!! :)

Cheers all...

[geoman]

I like the addiction level you added! Good job AJ! The only thing is, I prefer to eat my sushi!l lol!!! :D

Chris

[ajx22]

LOL Chris. I have always LOVED seafood - however since getting involved with this hobby - I always have to cringe a little when I sit down to a seafood meal. I still love it - just have a minor case of the Ibby-Geebies at first.

I kinda liked the whole "Addiction Level" format.


:D

[psiico]

I share my seafood with the tank, helps with the guilt, lol. And I would gladly give up my bedroom for more tanks, my couch is quite comfy.

[geoman]

Funny thing is while going to University I worked at a seafood/fish market to put myself through school. I can't begin to tell you about all the surf and turf meals I made for myself! Anyway I'm a little off topic!

Good job! :bablefish

[DaveA]

I know it's too late now but here's my suggestions for future considerations.

Addiction Level:

001 - 100 Just getting started, this hobby is cool.

100 - 200 Tank is cycling. Can I buy a Moorish Idle yet?

200 - 300 What's all that brown stuff.

300 - 400 Tanks looking good, I need more fish.

400 - 500 What's the best way to treat ich?

500 - 600 Nothing has died this month. This hobby is a piece of cake.

600 - 700 I want the biggest skimmer available. Do you take Visa?

700 - 800 Tangs don't belong in an aquarium........except mine.

800 - 900 Holy #%*@, you should see my hydro bill!

900 + For Sale complete marine aquarium setup. Will trade for food and shoes for my two kids.


Dave :wink-grin

[ajx22]

LMAO!!!

I'll make some breaks in the post levels to incorporate these as well.

Just too funny not to.

;)


I know it's too late now but here's my suggestions for future considerations.

Addiction Level:

001 - 100 Just getting started, this hobby is cool.

100 - 200 Tank is cycling. Can I buy a Moorish Idle yet?

200 - 300 What's all that brown stuff.

300 - 400 Tanks looking good, I need more fish.

400 - 500 What's the best way to treat ich?

500 - 600 Nothing has died this month. This hobby is a piece of cake.

600 - 700 I want the biggest skimmer available. Do you take Visa?

700 - 800 Tangs don't belong in an aquarium........except mine.

800 - 900 Holy #%*@, you should see my hydro bill!

900 + For Sale complete marine aquarium setup. Will trade for food and shoes for my two kids.


Dave :wink-grin

[ajx22]

ROFLMAO....

OK - here are the new Ranks / Addiction Levels:



0-99 = Just recently rented "Finding Nemo"
100-199 = Believes sushi would be better alive, swimming in the aquarium
200 - 299 = Tank is cycling. Can I buy a Moorish Idle yet?
300 - 399 = What's all that brown stuff?
400 - 499 = Friends visit his/her living room rather than Marineland
500 - 599 = Has scars from MH burns and recent tang attack
600 - 699 = What's the best way to treat ich?
700 - 799 = Can seriously discuss consitency of skimmate
800 - 899 = Nothing has died this month. This hobby is a piece of cake!
900 - 999 = I want the biggest skimmer available. Do you take Visa?
1000 - 1099 = Has considered one less bedroom in favour of a larger sump
1100 - 2499 = Tangs don't belong in an aquarium........except mine.
2500 - 3499 = Has child with the middle name Acropora
3500 - 4499 = Holy #%*@, you should see my hydro bill!
4500 - 4999 = Knows size matters (but is talking about skimmers)
5000 - 5999 = For Sale complete marine aquarium setup. Will trade for food and shoes for my two kids.
6000 + = Complete System For Sale ~ Must sell everything to afford the divorce lawyers.
Too much!! :D

[szesteve]

LOL!!! Awesome job AJ!

[szesteve]

I know it's too late now but here's my suggestions for future considerations.

Addiction Level:

001 - 100 Just getting started, this hobby is cool.

100 - 200 Tank is cycling. Can I buy a Moorish Idle yet?

200 - 300 What's all that brown stuff.

300 - 400 Tanks looking good, I need more fish.

400 - 500 What's the best way to treat ich?

500 - 600 Nothing has died this month. This hobby is a piece of cake.

600 - 700 I want the biggest skimmer available. Do you take Visa?

700 - 800 Tangs don't belong in an aquarium........except mine.

800 - 900 Holy #%*@, you should see my hydro bill!

900 + For Sale complete marine aquarium setup. Will trade for food and shoes for my two kids.


Dave :wink-grin

OMG! This is even better!!!!

[ajx22]

Anyone have any input/suggestions for the Reputation Levels yet?

Doesn't have to be as "comical" as the ranks - just want to get Member Input - as I know that there were a few of you who didn't like the "factory settings".

Let 'em rip...


TIA,

[Chrismo]

The list for reputation seems like the range is too broad no? I cant remember seeing anyone with above 100 reputation, yet the rating system goes up to 5000. maybe condense it to between -50 and 200?

Is reputation working fully now? I went down to zero. Is that because I gave someone my rep points or someone zapped me?

Chris

[ajx22]

The list for reputation seems like the range is too broad no? I cant remember seeing anyone with above 100 reputation, yet the rating system goes up to 5000. maybe condense it to between -50 and 200?

Is reputation working fully now? I went down to zero. Is that because I gave someone my rep points or someone zapped me?

Chris
It is broad - but it's meant for long-term ...

Reputation is 100% working.

In respect to the points -
http://www.aquariumpros.ca/forums/showthread.php?p=88947#post88947

[rickg]

This addiction level is great! adds a little humor too the site. Are there more to come? Maybe add some more like you have the smilies and avatars, where we could choose our own. Just a thought.

BTW- I already have my Moorish Idol and he survived the cycle!!!

Rick

[ajx22]

This addiction level is great! adds a little humor too the site. Are there more to come? Maybe add some more like you have the smilies and avatars, where we could choose our own. Just a thought.

BTW- I already have my Moorish Idol and he survived the cycle!!!

Rick
LOL - just a little humour.

You can also add nearly anything to your profile - by choosing your own User Title.


Should you have any further suggestions for "Addiction Level" - let me know, and I'll see about adding them.

[CHughes]

Rick:
These ratings are great, I like the levity of them....he said posting feverishly to make it to "sushi lover"!. BTW I still haven't rented Finding Nemo.

Chris

[Balkos]

Hi AJ,

Just a question on Reputation. I gave someone some rep today for a good post. That person had 0 Rep at the time, and after had more rep than i did, i believe it was 4400 or somthing like that. I have received rep from a few people, and i thought it was somthing that was built up slowly over time by receiveing multiple positive feedbacks. Even I don't think that I should have a Rep of 4000.

[RonPeter]

I've also noticed when you give someone rep they leap ahead. Strange settings. LOL

[Bulldawg]

I wish I were more familiar on how the rankings were determined specifically! I really would like help out with some more ideas! Just I'm not that familiar with how it all works, I have had great help from many, with awesome suggestions whom if I knew I would have gave them rep points. Heaven forbid anyone from getting Rep Points for posting Pics in a thread!!! LOL, that would get out f hand quickly! I like the way the addiction levels were arranged, but the added titles bring a little more humor. Keep up the great job! :bananas: :bravo: :bananas:

[Chrismo]

Same thing here, I sent someone from near zero to 4000 :)

[ajx22]

I think that this was because I had not yet rebuilt the reputation count after the upgrade...so the system didn't update the users rep count until after you had issued the new rep points. I just checked the server/admin settings - and all seems to be correct. I also just rebuilt the reputation counts as well...so, it all 'should' be working properly now.

Cheers,

[Continental]

Speaking of humour and holy !@$* you should see my hydro bill, aside from my two tanks with MH lights pumps, etc. running, I also have a driveway heater. About two years ago we had a lot of snow and being too tired to snow blow the driveway I clicked on the heater. I guess combined with everything running in my house it sparked some interest from some of our finest and they staked me out for three days. It wasn't until I showed them that my consumption of electricity goes up every time they see the snow melting on my driveway ( steam rising), no cars or trucks coming and going, my inviting them to come in and take a look, did they believe me and leave.

[Balkos]

Cool.

So you can't select how much rep you give them? It is automatically calculated? I thought you could chose to give them so many points, and the points that you gave them were subtracted from your own rep? Also when i check who has given me rep in the past, i have some with a green square besides them, and some with a greyish/blue square beside them. What is the difference?

Thanks!!

[ajx22]

Due to the "Reputation" feature causing more grief then it's worth - I have disabled it.

Unfortunately - for some reason much of the "adult" community likes to act like children - and either try to annoy other members by the use of negative Rep points - OR - others find the need to take these stupid points to heart - and cry about every point issued.

Problem Solved - Feature Removed.

Now we can all be happy and get along!!

Happy New Year!!!

[steve w.]

I agree with you AJ.
It is my opinion that the real value of this websight is the collective knowledge of those who use it.
There can be more than one right method(eg. sandbed depth, was one remembered as having a verity).
Since I join this group I have benefited from deals and technical info.
To steel the slogan from the comedy channel"time well wasted".
Reputation is something developed and earned regardless of a few bars under your name.

[Sea MunnKey]

Thank you AJ.:hail:

[Deleted]

Screw you AJ...
Hmm did you take the warn or MU feature off ;p


Anyways, I did notice that people that I thought deserved more points had less than those that obviously didn't deserve them. It's just too bad we 'Adults' were the cause of yet more work for you AJ.

[Asuran]

lol i was wondering why i had a +40K rep... gimme back my points! haha

[twizttid1]

Yeah, I dunno about that whole reputation thing... it really seemed a bit sketchy as how points were awarded / removed.
It had potential to mean something, but it was clearly not representative to certain individuals (to Deleted's point).
Glad it's gone! now we can all be friends without annoying each other!!!

[jmunding]

This is a fantastic idea. With the user reputation program we can tell those who are always jumping on us because of our beliefs how we really feel:bsmile: and then when the arguments start to fly so can the points, lol
All joking aside, i think its a great idea. As for the user ranks they could really help but alot of the newbies may feel intimidated by it because a few of the people who answer threads around here are extremely irritable and always think they are right so those particular people may make newbies just stop asking questions and take a walk to a different site.

[Big BeReefer]

This is a fantastic idea. With the user reputation program we can tell those who are always jumping on us because of our beliefs how we really feel:bsmile: and then when the arguments start to fly so can the points, lol
All joking aside, i think its a great idea. As for the user ranks they could really help but alot of the newbies may feel intimidated by it because a few of the people who answer threads around here are extremely irritable and always think they are right so those particular people may make newbies just stop asking questions and take a walk to a different site.

This is an old thread. You should of read from the beginning because the user reputation points was tried a while back and did not work out so administration canned the idea. People were getting points who may have not deserved them by playing buddy buddy with their pals and handing out points too easily. Trust me, we do not want to go back to that system.

[jmunding]

This is an old thread. You should of read from the beginning because the user reputation points was tried a while back and did not work out so administration canned the idea. People were getting points who may have not deserved them by playing buddy buddy with their pals and handing out points too easily. Trust me, we do not want to go back to that system.

Just realized that. I had been away sick and had not lookd at the date, geez

[RonPeter]

So you are saying I am irritable? LOL Just teasing you JMunding! :)

[jmunding]

So you are saying I am irritable? LOL Just teasing you JMunding! :)

Nahhh, never you buddy
buy the way did you ever get the pics of Kevs tanks? I gave you a warrant yesterday, lol:bsmile:

[Mugster]

buy the way did you ever get the pics of Kevs tanks? I gave you a warrant yesterday, lol:bsmile:




Mess with the bull and you'll get the horns. :eangel:





Kev :twitch:

[jmunding]

Mess with the bull and you'll get the horns. :eangel:





Kev :twitch:

Well we cant waste a perfectly good warrant now Kev and since Ron is the Pic police, who better to carry it out, besides we think you are holding out on us and purposely keeping us in pic suspense.

I was nice about it though, i offered to lend him my dogs as his K9 unit.

[ajx22]

Due to some newer members recently contacting the Administration about who they should 'listen' to for advice on the site...(newbies offering not-so-good advice to other newbies ~ though with the best intentions)...I have decided on the following.
I have turned on the Reputation System once again
I have reset all the Reputation points to 0
I have changed how the Reputation System works as well (see below)So the default reputation for ALL members is 0

As members continue to help others on the site, the site Admins/Super Mods and Mods have the ability to issue Rep Points to members who offer really solid, truely knowledgeable advice. Admins also have the ability to deduct points - however, this will ONLY be used under the most severe of cases.

Members do NOT have the ability to issue points - however, if you see a member who is really offering great advice - send a PM to one of the Mods/Admins of the site with the info (Member name, link to thread) to bring it to our attention. This is due to the previous problems (read the history of this thread to see the past issues).

The order the ratings go:
0 points = Has no reputation to report - YET
100 points = is on a distinguished road
200 points = will become famous soon enough
300 points = is a glorious beacon of light
400 points = is a name known to all
500 points = is a splendid one to behold
1000 points = has much to be proud of
2000 points = has a reputation beyond repute

These points will show-up in the Top-Right of each members posts, right under their Post count. They will show-up as green dots - increasing as their reputation grows. Hover your mouse over the dots to see the users Rep Title (as listed above).

We (the Admins) will be looking over recent post history to add Rep points to deserving members over the next little while...and will also be monitoring all future posts.

We hope that this will help to showcase the members on AP.ca who really know their stuff - and take the extra time to really help out the community.

*PLEASE NOTE:
This is NOT something to take offense to - just something to help reward the most active and helpful members. Please don't take offense if you don't have any/many Rep points. They will grow as time goes on.


Sincerely,
The AquariumPros.ca Administration and Moderation Team

[mr.wilson]

Okay, I have three bars. When do I win the toaster oven?

[Continental]

This is a Canadian site . No toaster ovens. Only a case of C Plus and years supply of Heinz ketchup.

[RonPeter]

Okay, I have three bars. When do I win the toaster oven?

You are a glorious beacon of light...what more do you want? LOL That's what it says when I hold my cursor over the bars! ROFL

[mr.wilson]

You are a glorious beacon of light...what more do you want? LOL That's what it says when I hold my cursor over the bars! ROFL

That's what it says if you hold two sticks over my head as well.

[newreef8584]

The little bars are neat, we could add several other categories to them though to further warn people.

Yellow bars- Pic addict, will hound you relentlessly for tank shots.

Orange bars- Is a Zoa nazi, and thinks all things should be ZOA!

Blue bars- Is a damsel lover and therefore is not to be trusted.

Red bars- Is known to roast/flame people (for fun) so be warned before posting to their threads.

You get the idea I think.

[jmunding]

The little bars are neat, we could add several other categories to them though to further warn people.

Yellow bars- Pic addict, will hound you relentlessly for tank shots.

Orange bars- Is a Zoa nazi, and thinks all things should be ZOA!

Blue bars- Is a damsel lover and therefore is not to be trusted.

Red bars- Is known to roast/flame people (for fun) so be warned before posting to their threads.

You get the idea I think.

Yellow bars, pic addict, ahhh Ron i think this is for you, lmao

We should have gold bars for those who give the best info on ailments

White bars for those who are puzzled all the time

pink bars for those who are known to put their foot in their mouth

black for those who think that mantis are a FOOD SUPPLY

Green bars for those who forget signatures


The blue bars, now that must be me.
I think we all know who should have the orange ones
The red ones, i think we all know who this should go too as well. Ron, Mugs, Me, my bud inflight, and the list goes on

[in_flight]

Yellow bars, pic addict, ahhh Ron i think this is for you, lmao

We should have gold bars for those who give the best info on ailments

White bars for those who are puzzled all the time

pink bars for those who are known to put their foot in their mouth

black for those who think that mantis are a FOOD SUPPLY

Green bars for those who forget signatures


The blue bars, now that must be me.
I think we all know who should have the orange ones
The red ones, i think we all know who this should go too as well. Ron, Mugs, Me, my bud inflight, and the list goes on

i never realized i had a reputation for flaming people, i try to give good advice when needed, if you don't agree with it or is contradictory to your beliefs/thoughts, i don't consider that flaming

[jmunding]

i never realized i had a reputation for flaming people, i try to give good advice when needed, if you don't agree with it or is contradictory to your beliefs/thoughts, i don't consider that flaming

i WAS ACTUALLY JOKING AROUND BUD
up until yesterday, you were a really sweet guy that i was starting to admire for his love of seahorses etc. I was also respecting your ideas and comments and found alot of them informative, now this. i ahte to say it bud but lighten up again. Go back to the in_flight full of information. I thought you might actually get a laugh out of it.

[Mugster]

Just to remind everyone how this works now.



As members continue to help others on the site, the site Admins/Super Mods and Mods have the ability to issue Rep Points to members who offer really solid, truely knowledgeable advice. Admins also have the ability to deduct points - however, this will ONLY be used under the most severe of cases.

Members do NOT have the ability to issue points - however, if you see a member who is really offering great advice - send a PM to one of the Mods/Admins of the site with the info (Member name, link to thread) to bring it to our attention. This is due to the previous problems (read the history of this thread to see the past issues).






Kev :twitch:

[Chrismo]

I like the titles as they are. Funny stuff.

[lotus02]

Where are the rep points that everyone use to have? Many members had a substantial amount of points but now they're gone.

[NanoReefaholic]

By reading this thread I'm guessing they're reset because people abused/misused the old system and now only admin/mods can issue points or subtract points.

[lotus02]

By reading this thread I'm guessing they're reset because people abused/misused the old system and now only admin/mods can issue points or subtract points.

Must have missed that post from AJ:oops: . Guess I should pay more attention . Thanks

[ajx22]

By reading this thread I'm guessing they're reset because people abused/misused the old system and now only admin/mods can issue points or subtract points. Correct.

However - we do encourage ALL members to notify one of the Mods/Admins if you see posts by other members that are deserving.

The subtraction of points is VERY unlikely...and will only be used by the Admin's in the most severe of situations. You're more likely to win the lottery then have points subtracted! (unless you actually were to TRY to cause harm)...I can't see anyone on AP.ca ever do something like this though.


PLEASE don't be offended if you are still @ the default 0 -
We (Admin/Mods) are watching all current posts...as the points will be issued for recent posts only.

Honestly folks - please understand that this isn't intended to be a popularity contest in ANY way/shape or form!

We have had a few newer members contact us regarding conflicting/bad advice given to them - some advice actually causing problems/losses in their tanks. This system is just a basic indication of the members who are providing THE MOST help - and have shown advanced knowledge and experience. This isn't to say that someone who has higher Rep points is more experienced - just that they have been very helpfull (and it was noticed or brought to the attention of the Mods/Admins).

We just want to try to make sure that the members who contribute the most are recognized for it (though a few green dots don't mean much - other then our thanks)...I hope that it's taken as it's intended.


Sincerely,

[NanoReefaholic]

Then we should just rename the rep points to brownie points!

Edit: brownies as in goodies, or a treat. Thought I should clear that up so people don't think brownie as in brown noser.

No matter what you do I'm sure there will be those that still complain or try to cheat the system some way. Glad I'm not in your shoes! Keep up with the interesting stuff though =)

[mr.wilson]

The new forum members and visitors are the ones that rely on reputation points to weigh the advice they receive. Regular visitors are familiar with the usual suspects on the forum, and can decide for themselves which advice to follow. I don't think the the new people are familiar enough with the icons to discern that they represent rep points. The green dots get lost in the sea of information on the screen.

Perhaps a title would highlight them so they stand out amongst all of the other important info on the screen...and no, I'm not just saying that because I have lots of points.

[NanoReefaholic]

Perhaps a title would highlight them so they stand out amongst all of the other important info on the screen...and no, I'm not just saying that because I have lots of points.

Sure... =P

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[ajx22]

The new forum members and visitors are the ones that rely on reputation points to weigh the advice they receive. Regular visitors are familiar with the usual suspects on the forum, and can decide for themselves which advice to follow. I don't think the the new people are familiar enough with the icons to discern that they represent rep points. The green dots get lost in the sea of information on the screen.

Perhaps a title would highlight them so they stand out amongst all of the other important info on the screen...and no, I'm not just saying that because I have lots of points.
Shawn,

Can you elaborate? How do you mean?

This is a new feature - so we're still tweaking it...and all the input we can get helps.

Also - we're going to make it a more known via the Welcome PM and emails, etc.

[lotus02]

I think what he is saying is the green bars are there but nothing that tells a newb what they are.
By the way mr wilson your past the toaster oven should be going for the car by now. LOL

[Cellenzweig]

Perhaps a title would highlight them so they stand out amongst all of the other important info on the screen...and no, I'm not just saying that because I have lots of points. While we all appreciate your vast amount of knowledge, we're not going to start referring to you as "God" Mr. Wilson... deal with it! :D

[ajx22]

I think what he is saying is the green bars are there but nothing that tells a newb what they are.
By the way mr wilson your past the toaster oven should be going for the car by now. LOL

Ok - so I'm somewhat limited by the existing system.

The existing phrase starts off with the Username
then I can add whatever I'd like after that.

Also - the default "icons" for reputation are the green bars. I can however, upload different icons.

Suggestions for both the phrasing and icons? (to make it more clear)

Thanks very much

[Sea MunnKey]

Also - the default "icons" for reputation are the green bars. I can however, upload different icons.

Suggestions for both the phrasing and icons? (to make it more clear)

Thanks very much

AJ,

How's about changing the Green Bars to "Golden Stars"...kinda like the eBay reputation rankings?? Frankly the Green Bars looks almost like as if you're busy Online anyways.
And maybe phrase it as "Reputable/Reliable contributor/adviser/member"?
Eh...eh...:naughty: whadya say eh :pimp:??

[ajx22]

AJ,

How's about changing the Green Bars to "Golden Stars"...kinda like the eBay reputation rankings?? Frankly the Green Bars looks almost like as if you're busy Online anyways.
And maybe phrase it as "Reputable/Reliable contributor/adviser/member"?
Eh...eh...:naughty: whadya say eh :pimp:??
OK -

So how does this look now?

Start out with = http://www.aquariumpros.ca/forums/images/reputation/reputation_balance.gif

As you progress, you get more = http://www.aquariumpros.ca/forums/images/reputation/reputation_pos.gif


Ratings now listed as:
User has no Respected Adviser Rating to report - YET
User is on a distinguished road to have a high Respected Adviser Rating
User will become famous soon enough with their Respected Adviser Rating
User is a glorious beacon of light due to their Respected Adviser Rating
User is a name known to all due to their Respected Adviser Rating
User is a splendid one to behold due to their Respected Adviser Rating
User has much to be proud of due to their Respected Adviser Rating
User has a Respected Adviser Rating beyond reputeBetter like this?

[Schlesien]

That's much better. Thanks AJ!

[Sea MunnKey]

Aj,

How does one, say a Newbie, know what the AP member Ranking is like? By way of clicking on the Green Bars...Hhhmm?? Frankly I hate to go 'thru all the "Read Me" info's...a "Click Me Now" icon would be great!! Just my two cents....

Paul

[ajx22]

That's much better. Thanks AJ!
Thanks for the feedback.

Should we leave the 'titles' as they are - or do you (everyone) think that there should be different titles for the different levels?

This is here to help - so I'd like to make it as clear (not confusing) as possible.


:cheers:

[ajx22]

Aj,

How does one, say a Newbie, know what the AP member Ranking is like? By way of clicking on the Green Bars...Hhhmm?? Frankly I hate to go 'thru all the "Read Me" info's...a "Click Me Now" icon would be great!! Just my two cents....

Paul

Hmm - not sure which of the 100's of templates this would be in - but let me look.

If I can find the right template, we could have the http://www.aquariumpros.ca/forums/images/reputation/reputation_pos.gif icons link to:

Click the star ---> http://www.aquariumpros.ca/forums/images/reputation/reputation_pos.gif (http://www.aquariumpros.ca/forums/faq.php?faq=vb_faq#faq_user_rep)

[Sea MunnKey]

Should we leave the 'titles' as they are - or do you (everyone) think that there should be different titles for the different levels?


This is here to help - so I'd like to make it as clear (not confusing) as possible.


:cheers:

AJ,
Here's a link to the Singapore Reef Club and get yourself registered as a Member and you should be able to see the attached image as it shows the species of Fish icon you're ranked at starting from the most basic species(for newbie) to the Moorish Idol (Advanced). See for yourselves...
http://www.sgreefclub.com/forum/


Hope this helps.
Paul

[NanoReefaholic]

How do we know how many points we have? Are the points given out in 100's?

[Cellenzweig]

Here's a link to the Singapore Reef Club and get yourself registered as a Member and you should be able to see the attached image as it shows the species of Fish icon you're ranked at starting from the most basic species(for newbie) to the Moorish Idol (Advanced). See for yourselves...

This is a cool idea. The only problem that I see is that the people who need this feature the most (newbies) probably won't know which species are basic and which are advanced...

[ajx22]

How do we know how many points we have? Are the points given out in 100's?
At this point - yes, points are issued in 100 point increments via the Mods/Admins. Not every post will be issued points though. Number of points doesn't really matter - just the 'ranking'.



AJ,
Here's a link to the Singapore Reef Club and get yourself registered as a Member and you should be able to see the attached image as it shows the species of Fish icon you're ranked at starting from the most basic species(for newbie) to the Moorish Idol (Advanced). See for yourselves...
http://www.sgreefclub.com/forum/


Hope this helps.
Paul

This is a little different. This is Ranks - the same as we have here with the User Titles like "Just Rented Finding Nemo". It counts certain things (like post count/days registered/etc.) - and automatically promotes up the ranks based on set criteria.

The feature that I'm adjusting - is either called Reputaion or Karma - depending on the forum, and what software (version) they are running.



This is a cool idea. The only problem that I see is that the people who need this feature the most (newbies) probably won't know which species are basic and which are advanced...

BINGO!

What I'm wondering is if the "titles" should be even more simple:

Credibility = Unknown
Credibility = Good
Credibility = Very Good
Credibility = Great
Credibility = Amazing
Credibility = Unbelievable
etc...replace Credibility with xxx

[tdhawk]

[B]
The subtraction of points is VERY unlikely...and will only be used by the Admin's in the most severe of situations. You're more likely to win the lottery then have points subtracted! (unless you actually were to TRY to cause harm)...I can't see anyone on AP.ca ever do something like this though.

Sincerely,

Imo, if the purpose of a ranking system is to give an indication of who's advice is sound and can be reasonably followed by a newb then for the ranking to have credibility, bad advice should be noted by the subtraction of points, stars,whatever symbol you use. Bad advice by someone with "credibility" is even more detrimental because it is more likely to be followed by newbs.

[lotus02]

What I'm wondering is if the "titles" should be even more simple:

Credibility = Unknown
Credibility = Good
Credibility = Very Good
Credibility = Great
Credibility = Amazing
Credibility = Unbelievable
etc...replace Credibility with xxx

That looks a lot better it's the credibility you want newbies to know. Seriously what is rep if your unfamiliar with the forum, rep could mean anything. (been on the board a long time or is a top poster ect.)

[mr.wilson]

That looks a lot better it's the credibility you want newbies to know. Seriously what is rep if your unfamiliar with the forum, rep could mean anything. (been on the board a long time or is a top poster ect.)

I agree. The objective is to clearly advise newbies, which posters have earned credibility points so they can consider it when weighing advice.

We need to make it clear that these aren't popularity or frequent posting points; they just give an idea of who has a good foundation of knowledge and posts accurate, helpful, well researched information. I think that gold stars and the last set of descriptions would work well. We already have the addiction level comments for humour anyway.

Gold stars are a universal icon for rewarded credibility and value. The green dots can easily be confused with online status or an insignificant statistic. Most people wouldn't place their cursor over them out of curiosity.

Of course this doesn't mean that people with high ratings won't give bad advice from time to time, including myself; but I'm sure new and old members can judge the quality of the answer for themselves. After all, we're all still learning, and the best answers can come from inexperienced members as well.

[ajx22]

100% agreed.

So - give me the low-down on the replacement titles you think would be best - and I'll change it.

Thanks all!!

[mr.wilson]

I like the idea of the welcome email to new members with posting and searching advice.

Maybe some of the other members can suggest what a newbie needs to know. I think the mods are too close to the system to know what a newbie doesn't get. It's become second nature for you guys.

The new format makes the site a lot easier to comprehend and use. By providing new members with a quick tutorial, we can make it more of a one stop, self-serve resource centre. The open forum is much more educational once you weed out the general topics that can be better served with a search of the archives.

The Wikipedia feature will help clarify difficult topics. I like the idea of a democratic, organic approach to compiling information.

Another feature that I would like to see, is a compilation of favourite links to, articles, websites, clubs, PDFs etc.

Here are some topics that come to mind for an AP newbie tutorial.

1) Signature how to.
2) How to do an advanced search before posting.
3) Posting etiquette
-Respect others opinions.
-If you're not sure of a fact, state so in the post.
-Give a follow up report for the ones that took the time to help you.
-Post pictures and or drawings.
-keep advice constructive.
-Move to PM if the subject drifts too far off topic.
-If you have a unique question that others can learn from, make it a thread rather than a PM. (I get these all the time).
-Understand the limitations of the forum, that you may not get the answer you want to hear, or any answer during off times.
-Try to follow the advice if you feel it has merit.
-Provide links to back up your information.
-Pass on interesting articles or links as you find them. (I really appreciate these).
4) Credibility stars.
5) How to find articles, TOTM, classifieds, sponsor forums, etc.
6) Reefers dictionary of terms and short forms.
7) Uploading photos and PDFs.
8) AP calculators and other somewhat hidden features.

[ajx22]

Shawn,

Thank you very much for the info. You are 100% correct regarding the the fact that things here do become 2nd nature - and this is why I'm always looking for Member input. I hope a few more members can chime in here too.

The new format was intended to help make things smoother and easier...so glad to know that we're not the only ones who thought that.

We do have the AP Web Links section - I hope that more members start to enter resources there.

I will start on the New To AP.ca Tutorial with the points you listed. Continued input on this is definitely appreciated.



Many thanks again for your input.

[ajx22]

Alright...

I have adjusted the 'titles' for the the Respected Advisor Rating system to be very simple, and concise.

I have created a new forum (sits at the very top of the forums listing) -

AquariumPros.ca Site Tutorial (http://www.aquariumpros.ca/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=155)
Here you will find instructional information on how to get the most out of your visits to AP.ca

I have started to add information to this section with most of the points you addressed taken care of. I will continue to add to this section as new features launch - and/or as more things are brought to my attention.

Let me know your thoughts thus far.

[lotus02]

I like the idea of the welcome email to new members with posting and searching advice.

Maybe some of the other members can suggest what a newbie needs to know. I think the mods are too close to the system to know what a newbie doesn't get. It's become second nature for you guys.

The new format makes the site a lot easier to comprehend and use. By providing new members with a quick tutorial, we can make it more of a one stop, self-serve resource centre. The open forum is much more educational once you weed out the general topics that can be better served with a search of the archives.

:iagree: The welcome Email or PM that has a link to AquariumPros.ca Site Tutorial is a great idea, urging the new members to read them before placing a first post. Often as said may times before people post a question before doing a search , :D Search Is Your Best Friend.:D

[RonPeter]

:D Search Is Your Best Friend.:D

I thought my dog then my girlfriend were my best friends????:D

[RonPeter]

I think the Site Tutorials are an awesome idea!

[mr.wilson]

I think the Site Tutorials are an awesome idea!

Hopefully it will make your job a lot easier.